Return of Reckoning

Luth wrote:Interesting. Everytime the devs change the balance, all kind of forum lurkers seem to emerge from the shadow.
This should be done more often. For science.

we had an entire thread about this stuff but these dam lurkers wont post or say anything in the threads till AFTER the change

listen people if you wont be part of the discussion then, then why should we listen to you now

hogun wrote:

Bignusty wrote:Thanks for fix now no more arrow like this one Yesterday or better 4950 :

plz Bignusty


tu pourrais nous donner ta stat endu toussakoi au moment de l'impact

merci

Endu 477 aucun debuff j'etais en train de back en arriere quand j'ai pris la flèche a mi presque mi life car sa fleche passe a travers toutes les resistances et sous m2 j'ai deja pris une 4950 .

Donc dans le *** les GF maintenant c'est que 50% des resist et ça evitera des pots ou a tous les autres en armure legere ou normale de se faire os.

Donc parfait le nerf !

tu sais big, j'ai 711 unbuff en endu et je surcap ma spirit et pourtant je prends des tick de 1800 par des sort instant de soso ... c 'est donc largement superieur au GF
perso je rage des fois mais de la a demander des changements d'équilibre ...

I LOVE YOU.

Chaoself wrote:

Aquilon wrote:

Chaoself wrote:
Because their dots can't be cleansed, maybe? because you aren't able to break a rotation? buffhead is your friend.

Sure. But SW deserves it, because can't be knocked and staggered and target can't run away while he puuuuuulls his bow.
So, nerfing Sorc damage to make it on par with BW should be logical. Even with nerfing BW's, so called "OP", control abilities.

sorc/bw requires group,their cc is weak (no aoe snare with selfpunt) and their backslash are not good to "solo/pug". see the difference?

Wait, wait, you tell me, that SW can take whole 6 man group down by himself?
And btw this OP aoe snare requires close range, so snare is applied on SW instantly not only from long-range dd, but from melee-dd as well.
And Sorc has long-range snare (basic T1 skill), which "OP-controller" BW lacks.

If balance is the goal - Sorc should be nerfed.

Also, one-shots by FA are possible in T2, but not in T3. In T3 target must be wounded or seriously lack in gear and have no guard. And in T4 dreaded 9k crits are possible only with rare LoTD tallics.

PS. "Order biased", huh? We have "Destro biased" dev secret society.
PPS. Destro QQ works. Gratz!

Jail wrote:Chosen & KOBS should really get their stagger increased to 5 seconds aswell, please think about that. The nerf from 9 to 3 back in the days was just retarded.

- Alex

No.

Magus/Engi should have a stronger stagger, given their ****-tier status. KOTBS/Chosen are already God's chosen children, so let the red-headed step children have some time in the sun too.

To all those complaining that the devs aren't being 'consistent' with their 'no changes prior to T4': what, exactly, is wrong with these changes? They are benefiting the game as a whole, nerfing an OP ability, and helping two UP classes out a little bit so that engi/magi may try specs other than rift - which, consequently, will help YOU guys because you won't be getting rifted so much.

??!??!

Thanks a lot to the devs. Means a lot.

Aquilon wrote: Wait, wait, you tell me, that SW can take whole 6 man group down by himself?
And btw this OP aoe snare requires close range, so snare is applied on SW instantly not only from long-range dd, but from melee-dd as well.
And Sorc has long-range snare (basic T1 skill), which "OP-controller" BW lacks.

If balance is the goal - Sorc should be nerfed.

Also, one-shots by FA are possible in T2, but not in T3. In T3 target must be wounded or seriously lack in gear and have no guard. And in T4 dreaded 9k crits are possible only with rare LoTD tallics.

PS. "Order biased", huh? We have "Destro biased" dev secret society.
PPS. Destro QQ works. Gratz!

people have posted threads and screenshots showing that Festerbomb is hitting for 4k+ and 1 shotting people in T3

as others have posted this only reduces its overall dmg by 20%

As TenTon has already said; these proposed changes were already discussed in detail (the Magi/Engi changes had several threads, all of which stretched from several pages up to 10+).
They have not been implemented prematurely, and - as per the first page - are subject to review.

Chill pill.

hogun wrote:tu sais big, j'ai 711 unbuff en endu et je surcap ma spirit et pourtant je prends des tick de 1800 par des sort instant de soso ... c 'est donc largement superieur au GF
perso je rage des fois mais de la a demander des changements d'équilibre ...

Oui enfin les squigs envoient pas des fleches a 4000 sous M2 hein !

C'est sur les flamby me mettent des 1900 en critik sans debuff endu juste en me debuffant ma resist corpo parfois sur sang bouillonnant (avec tactique) + le reste quand ils sont en full combu mais des 4950 en une bolt jamais . Avec tous les reports qu'il y a eu je trouve ça normal quand je joue sur mon PG et que je vois des cibles être atomisée sur une flèche je trouve ça un peu n'importe quoi. Quand tu as 3-4 GF dans un BG si tu as pas de tank pour push back c'est free kills .En T3 tu peux rien faire sans un lvl de renommé (reduc critik et chance d'etre critik) et puis toutes les classes ne mettent pas de points la dedans.Donc si les devs ont eu une discussion en interne c'est que cela était nécessaire mais bon au lieu de prendre des 4000 on prendra que des 2000 instant comme certains flamby sur sang bouillonnant =) !

De toute façon l'avenir du GF c'est la spé assaut =) !

Wait, wait, you tell me, that SW can take whole 6 man group down by himself?
And btw this OP aoe snare requires close range, so snare is applied on SW instantly not only from long-range dd, but from melee-dd as well.
And Sorc has long-range snare (basic T1 skill), which "OP-controller" BW lacks.

If balance is the goal - Sorc should be nerfed.

Also, one-shots by FA are possible in T2, but not in T3. In T3 target must be wounded or seriously lack in gear and have no guard. And in T4 dreaded 9k crits are possible only with rare LoTD tallics.

PS. "Order biased", huh? We have "Destro biased" dev secret society.
PPS. Destro QQ works. Gratz!

Artic Blast is 2 sec cast, 10 secs CD. Whiterin Heat is in proper mastery tree, without ANY cast due is a channel and the first tick snares for 3 secs. kkthxbye.