Return of Reckoning

do Black Orcs have the most Burst out of the rest of the classes? Do they drop some big numbers? relatively speaking of course, Im not expecting to hit BW numbers.

Luftwaffle wrote:1. do Black Orcs have the most Burst out of the rest of the classes?
2. Do they drop some big numbers? relatively speaking of course,
3. Im not expecting to hit BW numbers.

1. No
2. Yes
3. Not even close to half of BW or Sorc potetntial

Luftwaffle wrote:do Black Orcs have the most Burst out of the rest of the classes? Do they drop some big numbers? relatively speaking of course, Im not expecting to hit BW numbers.

The most burst out of tanks... maybe but they do trop ome big numbers with stab you godder

when the lvl cap was 26 black orcs could crit for 1k+ with down you go

Nishka wrote:tanks with 2handers are viable in small-scale engagements. Like scenes.

12 v 12 is hardly "small scale"

so what about a Choppa compared to the Black Orc? are they comparable dps wise? can a DPS BO outshine the Choppa with it's extra survivability or does the Choppa do okay for himself with staying alive?

Luftwaffle wrote:so what about a Choppa compared to the Black Orc? are they comparable dps wise? can a DPS BO outshine the Choppa with it's extra survivability or does the Choppa do okay for himself with staying alive?

If both players are good and have the same gear - Choppa just a monster
But Choppa needs in support: def tank for guard and healer for heal

BO needs in the only healer, but his dps output is much lower, sure

In some of my research I see that Ironbreakers are getting a good wrap as a Sturdy/Damage/Group Utility mix that works very well with a 2H can anyone comment on their opinion on this?

Luftwaffle wrote:In some of my research I see that Ironbreakers are getting a good wrap as a Sturdy/Damage/Group Utility mix that works very well with a 2H can anyone comment on their opinion on this?

yes, with this base build:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=ib; ... :;;0:0:0:0:

Your still very durable and you have access still all your strong grp buffs and what not

I still think the best 2h tank is sm, spiritual damage is a must if u want to deformate the tank archetipe to get sometimes worth the loss. U have to stack str like crazy, this will leave u with just some points for wound/ini in order to don't need a guard if not really focused. Using a full spiritual damage rotation like PoH- WoH-DS-EB (dot is a must)-sudden shift-DS etc (talking about current meta), will let u ignore ws completly and be the king of melee duelling. U'll still be useful in group as a first line nuker. Remember to spam PoH or dot will kill u down quite fast (items whit ap regen will help a lot, sm miss any sort of ap leech). Guarding in this setup is suicide (i usually die b4 my guard target xD) so get used to squishys rants.

Coryphaus wrote:

Luftwaffle wrote:In some of my research I see that Ironbreakers are getting a good wrap as a Sturdy/Damage/Group Utility mix that works very well with a 2H can anyone comment on their opinion on this?

yes, with this base build:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=ib; ... :;;0:0:0:0:

Your still very durable and you have access still all your strong grp buffs and what not

Please do not post builds for 40 lvl and 50+RR
Make it for current game: 31/40 and then say again about his durability

peppex91 wrote:I still think the best 2h tank is sm, spiritual damage is a must if u want to deformate the tank archetipe to get sometimes worth the loss. U have to stack str like crazy, this will leave u with just some points for wound/ini in order to don't need a guard if not really focused. Using a full spiritual damage rotation like PoH- WoH-DS-EB (dot is a must)-sudden shift-DS etc (talking about current meta), will let u ignore ws completly and be the king of melee duelling. U'll still be useful in group as a first line nuker. Remember to spam PoH or dot will kill u down quite fast (items whit ap regen will help a lot, sm miss any sort of ap leech). Guarding in this setup is suicide (i usually die b4 my guard target xD) so get used to squishys rants.

Sm is worst tank ever - as tank and as dps - can't say more about this class

If people plan on only planning and playing a class for only this stage of the game, for 31/40 then thats their problem

also SM is by no means bad at dps, its their grp utility that makes them bad and unwanted