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Re: Shield Warrior Priest underperformance even with BiS gear

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 3:41 pm
by kpihuss
Weekly Shield WP

Sample

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Period: 31/07 to 03/08

Global dataset:
Scenarios downloaded:          2,278
Scoreboard entries:           42,751
Sigmar's Will detections:        590
Scenarios with Shield WP:         182

Level 40 period-detected Shield WP:
Entries: 147
Players:  13

Minimum sample filter:

* Minimum 3 comparable SCs per player
* Removed entries:   6
* Removed players:   4

Final comparable sample:
Entries:    58
Players:     7
Scenarios:  57

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Entries excluded from healer-relative tables:

No other Order healer in the same SC: 1
Metric definitions

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Heal%     = Shield WP Heal/min vs other Order healers
HealO%    = Shield WP Heal others/min vs other Order healers
ProtO%    = Shield WP protection to others vs other Order healers
ProtRecv% = Shield WP protection received vs other Order healers
Deaths%   = Shield WP deaths vs other Order healers
Dmg%      = Shield WP damage vs average active DPS
KillDmg%  = Shield WP kill damage vs average active DPS kill damage
Global result

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SC  WP  RR    Win%   Heal/min  Heal%  HealO/min  HealO%
58   7  77.4  29.3%    14.04k  98.7%     10.81k   86.2%

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Dmg     Dmg%   KillDmg  KillDmg%  Kill%  Dmg/Heal
32.80k  47.3%   10.48k     44.9%  32.0%     31.8%

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ProtO/min  ProtO%  ProtRecv/min  ProtRecv%  Deaths  Deaths%
1.70k   66.0%         3.91k     201.7%     0.8   146.7%

Res  SelfProt
0.5     55.6%
By player

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Player        SC  RR    Win%   Heal/min  Heal%   HealO/min  HealO%
Pxxxxxxxxxxx  21  73.6  19.0%    13.13k   82.3%      9.91k   70.5%
Rxxxxx        10  90.0  30.0%    16.15k  125.1%     13.26k  116.8%
Hxxxx          7  57.1  28.6%    17.15k  106.4%     13.14k   95.2%
Uxxxx          6  82.0  50.0%     9.21k   78.2%      6.06k   57.5%
Axxxxx         5  85.0   0.0%    16.88k  114.7%     14.06k  108.1%
Yxxxxxxxxxx    5  77.0  60.0%    10.10k   60.5%      7.39k   49.2%
Kxxxxx         4  85.0  50.0%    16.79k  173.7%     12.59k  150.4%

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Player        Dmg     Dmg%   KillDmg  KillDmg%
Pxxxxxxxxxxx  28.74k  42.7%   10.29k     40.1%
Rxxxxx        34.12k  51.0%   12.21k     57.1%
Hxxxx         26.40k  35.0%    4.04k     24.4%
Uxxxx         56.93k  78.7%   14.19k     56.7%
Axxxxx        22.30k  40.4%    9.77k     53.2%
Yxxxxxxxxxx   28.76k  33.9%    8.41k     33.0%
Kxxxxx        43.96k  63.2%   16.36k     63.1%

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Player        ProtO%  ProtRecv%  Deaths  Deaths%  Res
Pxxxxxxxxxxx    16.7%     172.3%     0.8   124.1%  0.5
Rxxxxx          76.3%     362.5%     0.4   100.0%  0.8
Hxxxx          176.6%     168.7%     0.6   457.1%  0.6
Uxxxx           28.4%     308.0%     2.7   228.6%  0.7
Axxxxx         192.3%     175.0%     0.0     0.0%  0.2
Yxxxxxxxxxx      0.0%     232.7%     1.0   200.0%  0.2
Kxxxxx          76.7%      84.9%     0.5    71.4%  0.2
By day

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Day    SC  WP  RR    Win%   Heal/min  Heal%   HealO%
31/07  14   3  76.7  35.7%    14.15k  103.1%   89.8%
01/08  24   5  85.2  33.3%    13.74k  107.3%   95.8%
02/08  20   3  68.5  20.0%    14.33k   85.3%   72.9%

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Day    Dmg%   KillDmg%  ProtO%  ProtRecv%  Deaths  Deaths%
31/07  42.6%     43.9%   43.2%     101.3%     0.7    83.3%
01/08  56.0%     53.5%   72.5%     257.5%     1.0   167.7%
02/08  40.8%     35.8%   67.4%     252.5%     0.8   242.3%
By RR bracket

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RR     SC  WP  Win%   Heal/min  Heal%   HealO%
50-59   7   1  28.6%    17.15k  106.4%   95.2%
70-79  26   2  26.9%    12.54k   77.9%   66.1%
80-89  15   3  33.3%    13.79k  114.9%   98.6%
90+    10   1  30.0%    16.15k  125.1%  116.8%

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RR     Dmg%   KillDmg%  ProtO%  ProtRecv%  Deaths  Deaths%
50-59  35.0%     24.4%  176.6%     168.7%     0.6   457.1%
70-79  40.6%     38.8%   13.2%     182.5%     0.8   136.3%
80-89  63.8%     57.8%   85.4%     172.5%     1.2   157.2%
90+    51.0%     57.1%   76.3%     362.5%     0.4   100.0%
By scenario size

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Players  SC  WP  Heal/min  Heal%   HealO%
12-17     1   1    28.07k  226.7%  216.9%
18-23     6   3    10.44k   86.5%   67.1%
24       39   7    14.53k   93.4%   82.3%
25-35    12   5    13.11k  111.6%   99.0%

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Players  Dmg%   KillDmg%  ProtO%  ProtRecv%  Deaths%
12-17    66.8%     49.5%   36.4%    1080.1%    50.0%
18-23    45.9%     37.2%   17.9%     157.0%   300.0%
24       46.7%     43.3%   62.0%     215.7%   132.5%
25-35    44.0%     52.0%  103.3%     151.6%   127.6%
By number of Order healers

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Order healers  SC  WP  Heal/min  Heal%   HealO%
<=3            29   7    14.10k   78.2%   66.7%
4-5            27   7    14.03k  112.1%  100.2%
6+              2   1    13.38k  130.8%  110.2%

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Order healers  Dmg%   KillDmg%  ProtO%  ProtRecv%  Deaths%
<=3            46.2%     42.0%   54.6%     267.2%   150.5%
4-5            48.8%     48.0%   79.9%     190.7%   109.1%
6+             37.5%     52.0%   45.7%     171.4%   550.0%
Short reading

After requiring at least 3 comparable SCs per player, the final sample is:

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Comparable Shield WP entries: 58
Players:                       7
Scenarios:                    57
The global result is:

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Heal/min vs other Order healers:         98.7%
Heal others/min vs other Order healers:  86.2%

Damage vs average active DPS:            47.3%
Kill damage vs average active DPS:       44.9%

Protection to others vs Order healers:   66.0%
Protection received vs Order healers:   201.7%
Deaths vs Order healers:                146.7%
Win rate:                                29.3%

Re: Shield Warrior Priest underperformance even with BiS gear

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2026 10:01 am
by kpihuss
Weekly Shield WP

Sample

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Period: 07/08 to 10/08 (Note: Killboard is down from 06/08 to 08/08)

Global dataset:
Scenarios downloaded:        1,551
Scoreboard entries:         25,319
Sigmar's Will detections:      338
Scenarios with Shield WP:       111

Filters used

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Shield WP healer/support entry:

* Level 40
* Warrior Priest
* Sigmar's Will damage confirmed inside the same scenario
* Healing > damage
* Damage >= 10% of healing
* Damage >= 10% of average active DPS damage in the same scenario
* Minimum 3 comparable SCs per player
Comparison rules

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Order healer comparison:

* Only Order healers
* WP, AM, RP
* Shield WP entries excluded from the Order healer average
* Entries with no other Order healer are excluded from relative healer comparisons

DPS comparison:

* Level 40 active DPS in the same scenarios

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Heal%     = Shield WP Heal/min vs other Order healers
HealO%    = Shield WP Heal others/min vs other Order healers
ProtO%    = Shield WP protection to others vs other Order healers
ProtRecv% = Shield WP protection received vs other Order healers
Deaths%   = Shield WP deaths vs other Order healers
Dmg%      = Shield WP damage vs average active DPS
KillDmg%  = Shield WP kill damage vs average active DPS kill damage
Global result

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SC  WP  RR    Win%   Heal/min  Heal%  HealO/min  HealO%
24   4  83.6  79.2%  17.02k    88.7%  12.97k     78.6%

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Dmg     Dmg%   KillDmg  KillDmg%  Kill%  Dmg/Heal
31.42k  37.7%  10.44k   43.0%     33.2%  29.3%

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ProtO/min  ProtO%  ProtRecv/min  ProtRecv%  Deaths  Deaths%  Res  SelfProt
1.89k      46.3%   4.00k         267.2%     1.0     131.4%   0.3  58.0%
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Player   SC  RR    Win%   Heal/min  Heal%   HealO/min  HealO%
Kpihuss  12  90.0  83.3%  16.43k    83.2%   11.35k     64.7%
Sxxxxxx   6  81.0  66.7%  17.37k    91.2%   15.29k     92.5%
Kxxxxx    3  85.0 100.0%  19.58k   209.0%   15.01k    176.9%
Mxxxx     3  62.0  66.7%  16.17k    59.7%   12.76k     62.9%

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Player   Dmg     Dmg%   KillDmg  KillDmg%  ProtO%  ProtRecv%
Kpihuss  33.07k  39.4%   9.47k    40.5%     47.5%   286.9%
Sxxxxxx  33.32k  40.1%  12.39k    55.1%      9.1%   457.7%
Kxxxxx   28.92k  42.8%  10.95k    47.8%     88.8%   312.7%
Mxxxx    23.51k  24.4%   9.92k    30.3%    142.8%   126.6%

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Player   Deaths  Deaths%  Res
Kpihuss   1.2    187.5%   0.5
Sxxxxxx   0.2     22.2%   0.0
Kxxxxx    0.7     66.7%   0.3
Mxxxx     1.7    250.0%   0.0
By RR bracket

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RR     SC  WP  Win%   Heal/min  Heal%  HealO%
60-69   3   1  66.7%  16.17k    59.7%  62.9%
80-89   9   2  77.8%  18.10k   114.4% 109.8%
90+    12   1  83.3%  16.43k    83.2%  64.7%

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RR     Dmg%   KillDmg%  ProtO%  ProtRecv%  Deaths  Deaths%
60-69  24.4%   30.3%   142.8%   126.6%     1.7     250.0%
80-89  40.9%   52.6%    15.5%   450.8%     0.3      40.0%
90+    39.4%   40.5%    47.5%   286.9%     1.2     187.5%
By scenario size

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Players  SC  WP  Heal/min  Heal%  HealO%
12-17     3   2  15.59k    109.1% 111.9%
18-23    18   4  18.26k     86.5%  76.0%
24        3   1  11.01k     88.2%  72.5%

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Players  Dmg%   KillDmg%  ProtO%  ProtRecv%  Deaths%
12-17    37.1%   45.9%   129.9%    35.7%     100.0%
18-23    37.3%   46.6%    38.3%   372.3%     160.0%
24       41.1%   24.9%   121.8%   489.8%     114.3%
By number of Order healers

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Order healers  SC  WP  Heal/min  Heal%  HealO%
<=3            23   4  17.53k    90.1%  80.4%
4-5             1   1   5.45k    41.4%  23.4%

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Order healers  Dmg%   KillDmg%  ProtO%  ProtRecv%  Deaths%
<=3            38.4%   42.7%    46.7%   267.8%     127.3%
4-5            23.6%   53.0%    23.2%   215.1%     200.0%
The global result is:

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Heal/min vs other Order healers:         88.7%
Heal others/min vs other Order healers:  78.6%

Damage vs average active DPS:            37.7%
Kill damage vs average active DPS:       43.0%

Protection to others vs Order healers:   46.3%
Protection received vs Order healers:   267.2%
Deaths vs Order healers:                131.4%
Winrate = 79,2%

The sample is heavily concentrated in The Ironclad, so I would avoid overreading scenario-size or day-based splits.
We can see that in enclosed spaces where he should be the king of combat, he still heals less than other healers, although his win rate has been quite good.
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