Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

[Azarael]

Let's try baby steps, then.

I'm proposing moving Crashing Wave and Down Ya Go to 9pts.

[Coryphaus]

go ahead literally no one here opposes those changes

[Rebuke]

Let's try baby steps, then.

I'm proposing moving Crashing Wave and Down Ya Go to 9pts.

That is the way to go man. Small steps of changes allows for players to analyse the effect better (due too smaller scope) and help you guys steer the balancing in the right way.

Like me and others that play SM/BO extensively already said: SM+BO lack CC/UTILITY and SUPPORT.

Crashing wave/Down ya go gives a knockdown --> INCREASED CC/UTILITY.

Crashing Wave gives 4 secs of party cc immune (20% of the time in melee heavy fights), BO already has the WS buff so its fair that both now bring a buff to the party except for that dreadful stat-steal --> INCREASED SUPPORT.

Imho: DAMAGE and TANKYNESS for SM and BO should be 100% out-of-scope.

[Azarael]

Imho: DAMAGE and TANKYNESS for SM and BO should be 100% out-of-scope.

It is out of scope.

[Gerv]

Let's try baby steps, then.

I'm proposing moving Crashing Wave and Down Ya Go to 9pts.

I don't think it is the community who are active on the forums here you need to convince but the internal critics, maybe they could come out and post why they oppose the changes so we can at least discuss with them.

However, I guess we will just need to wait and see.

[Azarael]

I don't think it is the community who are active on the forums here you need to convince but the internal critics, maybe they could come out and post why they oppose the changes so we can at least discuss with them.

However, I guess we will just need to wait and see.

We'll be conducting balance-related discussions on the forum instead of within internal chat.

[Penril]

Let's try baby steps, then.

I'm proposing moving Crashing Wave and Down Ya Go to 9pts.

I don't think it is the community who are active on the forums here you need to convince but the internal critics, maybe they could come out and post why they oppose the changes so we can at least discuss with them.

However, I guess we will just need to wait and see.

It's my fault. I make the BO look OP.

[Joan]

Go ahead Az

It's an alpha after all, we gotta test

[Kazekiri]

Make it real please

[Azarael]

When I finish fixing the remaining memory leaks, I'll be moving the knockdowns to 9pts.