Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

[sharpblader]

This topic is clearly about solo heroes whining about playing the ultimate group class with solo play as its weakness. Kotbs is one of the best tanks in the game and should clearly not be given damage as well as all utility. If you want more damage then name what utility you will drop.

Agreed.

Still, all tanks are great for solo even knights. True the class doesn't have a way to "abuse" OP solo abilities like WE with undefendable WB daggers, WH with FA + SB, IB and BG with super regen, AMs and Shamans with kiting tools, etc. But 2h Knight in solo build can still 1v1 most other solo class builds.

[Battlefield]

But every class should able to do direct damage, even a tanks and does not matter how good group utilities it has , because this is the idea of the game developers !

disagree entirely. properly support, cc for and guard the slayer, you just quintupled his dmg output. enabled dmg > direct dmg for a tank

Tazdingo, you cropped my previous message, meaning of it and i fixed it for more understanding!

About group utilities and damage, BO/SM gives absorb buff every 10 seconds to every member
of group that is near, gives periodical wounds buff works as healing effect but
their damage is very well !
Also BO has No Choppin' Me tactic, it gives weapons skill and thougness 100+ buff to
all group members for all time while combat going, Follow'me Lead ability without cooldown and
it looks like 2 auras. Besides BO and SM can buff armor and resists for team and numbers higher than potions.
Also BO can get 100% block rating with Can't Hit me! and strenght aoe debuff, Kotbs max 40%+ !
I see Bo got punt tactic in the Path of Da' Toughest.
BO now as Chosen is much more popular, than Kotbs! Do you can tell us why ?
Need to make a border between group utilities 2-3 pathes and damage abilities is 1st path and
on my opinion, all group utilities should require a shield !

A BO focused on damage have very little utility.

Laughing

How you afraid of any buff to Kotbs, like it will break any balance and i see you prefer weak enemy, but most of players not stupid and just drop the class if it becomes weak than was before!

[tazdingo]

absorb is free shift, no target builder. thats only reason its used

no proper punt, tough and ws compared to auras, really?? the wounds and armor/resist bellows are nice but to get to the levels you describe requires speccing high into trees with the undesired 13pters... the strawman BO you're attacking here exists only in a world where we get 5 points per level

finally 100% block, you know you cant avoid guard dmg from undefendable attacks, right? i wont drop the big red word

im not being partisan, knight is exactly as good as it should be utility wise, but every tank has already been pushed far enough to being a dps hybrid so wimps who don't have the balls to roll a proper mdps get a nice safety class to mince around as. wanna deal dmg, roll a slayer, its pretty effective

[Battlefield]

absorb is free shift, no target builder. thats only reason its used

no proper punt, tough and ws compared to auras, really?? the wounds and armor/resist bellows are nice but to get to the levels you describe requires speccing high into trees with the undesired 13pters... the strawman BO you're attacking here exists only in a world where we get 5 points per level

finally 100% block, you know you cant avoid guard dmg from undefendable attacks, right? i wont drop the big red word

im not being partisan, knight is exactly as good as it should be utility wise, but every tank has already been pushed far enough to being a dps hybrid so wimps who don't have the balls to roll a proper mdps get a nice safety class to mince around as. wanna deal dmg, roll a slayer, its pretty effective

Oh, try to play for the Kotbs and make comparative conclusions after, i'm sure you will change your opnion and it's all your thoughts on paper how Knight is very strong, the best tank etc !
Borc got a buffs on RoR, Kotbs only nerfs ! Wanna deal dmg, roll a 2H Borc ?!!
Man, i have almost all classes on both Realms, including all tanks on RoR from 2015
(Joined:Sun May 17, 2015 7:00 pm) and i have seen all stages of this server....
As you it seems, but why you don't understand a problems of the Knight?
Do you play only for the Greens?

[tazdingo]

i play plenty of knight, my fav class since live. cant play it here cause playing NA order is pve. best tank in game, doesnt need to lose utility to pay for a dumb solo dps spec. all tanks need more tank stuff

Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:12 pm wat do i win

[Battlefield]

i play plenty of knight, my fav class since live. cant play it here cause playing NA order is pve. best tank in game, doesnt need to lose utility to pay for a dumb solo dps spec. all tanks need more tank stuff

Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:12 pm wat do i win

On live was other state of the Kotbs ! Small scale play is not solo, it is 2-3-4 members or gank party and Bo has utility and damage together ! Agree parly, tanks need more stuff but for SnB spec and for 2H path needs dps stuff too !

[Nekkma]

But every class should able to do direct damage, even a tanks and does not matter how good group utilities it has , because this is the idea of the game developers !

disagree entirely. properly support, cc for and guard the slayer, you just quintupled his dmg output. enabled dmg > direct dmg for a tank

Tazdingo, you cropped my previous message, meaning of it and i fixed it for more understanding!

About group utilities and damage, BO/SM gives absorb buff every 10 seconds to every member
of group that is near, gives periodical wounds buff works as healing effect but
their damage is very well !
Also BO has No Choppin' Me tactic, it gives weapons skill and thougness 100+ buff to
all group members for all time while combat going, Follow'me Lead ability without cooldown and
it looks like 2 auras. Besides BO and SM can buff armor and resists for team and numbers higher than potions .
Also BO can get 100% block rating with Can't Hit me!, Kotbs max 40%+ !
I see Bo got punt tactic in the Path of Da' Toughest.
BO now as Chosen is much more popular, than Kotbs! Do you can tell us why ?
Need to make a border between group utilities 2-3 pathes and damage abilities is 1st path and
on my opinion, all group utilities should require a shield !

A BO focused on damage have very little utility.

Laughing

How you afraid of any buff to Kotbs, like it will break any balance and i see you prefer weak enemy, but most of players not stupid and just drop the class if it becomes weak than was before!

A BO focused on damage is obviosuly a 2h one so you can drop all shield arguments right away. A BO focused on damage have 17 points i brawler and 3-4 tactics are damage tactics only. This leaves you with the decision to either go for knock down or cd increaser. I like cd increaser better but since there is nothing else of value in that tree I usually end up with knock down (and group absorb and buffed semi-usefull bellow). This means that most of what you list as utility cannot be used at the same time as you are focused on damage (anyone mentioning the complete trash punt tactic as an asset is basically showing he knows nothing of the class).

[Battlefield]

disagree entirely. properly support, cc for and guard the slayer, you just quintupled his dmg output. enabled dmg > direct dmg for a tank

Tazdingo, you cropped my previous message, meaning of it and i fixed it for more understanding!

About group utilities and damage, BO/SM gives absorb buff every 10 seconds to every member
of group that is near, gives periodical wounds buff works as healing effect but
their damage is very well !
Also BO has No Choppin' Me tactic, it gives weapons skill and thougness 100+ buff to
all group members for all time while combat going, Follow'me Lead ability without cooldown and
it looks like 2 auras. Besides BO and SM can buff armor and resists for team and numbers higher than potions .
Also BO can get 100% block rating with Can't Hit me!, Kotbs max 40%+ !
I see Bo got punt tactic in the Path of Da' Toughest.
BO now as Chosen is much more popular, than Kotbs! Do you can tell us why ?
Need to make a border between group utilities 2-3 pathes and damage abilities is 1st path and
on my opinion, all group utilities should require a shield !

A BO focused on damage have very little utility.

Laughing

How you afraid of any buff to Kotbs, like it will break any balance and i see you prefer weak enemy, but most of players not stupid and just drop the class if it becomes weak than was before!

A BO focused on damage is obviosuly a 2h one so you can drop all shield arguments right away. A BO focused on damage have 17 points i brawler and 3-4 tactics are damage tactics only. This leaves you with the decision to either go for knock down or cd increaser. I like cd increaser better but since there is nothing else of value in that tree I usually end up with knock down (and group absorb and buffed semi-usefull bellow). This means that most of what you list as utility cannot be used at the same time as you are focused on damage (anyone mentioning the complete trash punt tactic as an asset is basically showing he knows nothing of the class).

Really? Intereting opinion but wrong !

RoR.builders - Black Orc

[Nekkma]

Dropping you woot is not a BO focused on damage. Dropping you woot for no choppin me is a sign of beeing retarded. Also that is the 2h BOs only way to survive as you have no othe rparry/mitigation buff. You are clearly clueless so please stop. But please add 4 mandatory damage tactics to knight so you can drop superpunt, slice trough, focused mending and see how fun that would be.

[Asderas27]

2022 and forum warriors still trying to reinvent class builds xD.