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Re: White Lion Changes (8/25/2018)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:52 am
by scatterthewinds
test on mobs is irrelevant. WE strength is armor bypass.
Re: White Lion Changes (8/25/2018)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:03 am
by Ummagumma
scatterthewinds wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:52 am
WE strength is armor bypass.
This is not a true statement.
Weapon Skill reduces armor. Strength increases damage.
Re: White Lion Changes (8/25/2018)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:04 am
by scatterthewinds
do we even play the same game?
Re: White Lion Changes (8/25/2018)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:08 am
by sogeou
scatterthewinds wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:52 am
test on mobs is irrelevant. WE strength is armor bypass.
Test on TEST mobs is relevant. Also, WL can get past armor pretty good with their strong armor debuff and 600+ weaponskill.
Test numbers don't lie. WL is balanced as far as DPS goes. Might needs a few tweaks with the stance changes and move locations.
Re: White Lion Changes (8/25/2018)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:09 am
by Ummagumma
scatterthewinds wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:04 am
do we even play the same game?
Doubtful. Warhammer Online has stats that operate the same for all classes. So what you said, strength ignores armor, but only for one class, is not true.
Not sure what game you're playing. Maybe you found the wrong forums?
Re: White Lion Changes (8/25/2018)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:11 am
by Sanao
Ummagumma wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:09 am
scatterthewinds wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:04 am
do we even play the same game?
Doubtful. Warhammer Online has stats that operate the same for all classes. So what you said, strength ignores armor, but only for one class, is not true.
Not sure what game you're playing. Maybe you found the wrong forums?
You've misunderstood what he said.
He said a Witch Elf's strength is that they can bypass armor, not that strength allows you to bypass armor.
Re: White Lion Changes (8/25/2018)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:14 am
by scatterthewinds
I am ABSOLUTELY posting on the wrong forums.
Re: White Lion Changes (8/25/2018)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:26 am
by Ummagumma
Sanao wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:11 am
Ummagumma wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:09 am
scatterthewinds wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:04 am
do we even play the same game?
Doubtful. Warhammer Online has stats that operate the same for all classes. So what you said, strength ignores armor, but only for one class, is not true.
Not sure what game you're playing. Maybe you found the wrong forums?
You've misunderstood what he said.
He said a Witch Elf's strength is that they can bypass armor, not that strength allows you to bypass armor.
You mean like Torment? Oh wait, that's a Witch Hunter ability.
Re: White Lion Changes (8/25/2018)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:29 am
by Sanao
You should consider looking in to what Agonizing Wound does.
Re: White Lion Changes (8/25/2018)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:43 am
by Ummagumma
Sanao wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:29 am
You should consider looking in to what Agonizing Wound does.
Well sure, let's see...
Agonizing Wounds...it says here that it does 177 damage at a cost of 35 ap, 5 foot range, and it ignores armor if behind the target.
Now, Torment...177 damage at a cost of 35 ap, 5 foot range, and it ignores armor if behind the target.
That looks like it does the same thing. That's weird considering the amount of crying I'm seeing over witch elves while no one is mentioning witch hunters. Is Order trying to open up a salt mine? It looks that way.
Perhaps you should consider looking into what Torment does.