Return of Reckoning

Well a good incentive would be removing the renown gain penalty after rr40, even if the system is not fine for A or B ppl would join rvr to get some rp's

Amidala wrote:

Haojin wrote: Premades: It's the tricky part, starts with 6 man and end with 24 man. All the force size have different roles in the lake but the main flow of the casuals prefering the side have "more" premades. Atm order has more premades than destro, it's a fact and it effects the population of casuals. [ it's a long discussion actually but i'll cut it short. it's really fun to see some 6 mans keep playing with the zerger side, i heard they prefer challenge but meh whatever.]

most of them rerolled order side cuz they are envious of you,and they are playing order side refusing any type of communications with Wbs and other order players.Sad

You seen how other order players/wbs speak to said premades? No wonder they want nothing to do with the leeches.

Agree with pretty much everything Hao said (as usual). Too many premades on Order farming pugs, the **** is the challenge in that.

peterthepan3 wrote: You seen how other order players/wbs speak to said premades? No wonder they want nothing to do with the leeches.

There is a serious case of premade bullying going on? :O

Druin wrote:

peterthepan3 wrote: You seen how other order players/wbs speak to said premades? No wonder they want nothing to do with the leeches.

There is a serious case of premade bullying going on? :O

What? My point is in response to Amidala's claim that premades want 'nothing' to do with wbs/other players, giving a reason as to why this possibly may be (based on personal experiences/that of our guild). <3

Yaliskah wrote:
Well i must disagree with you. If a game isn't incentive, it misses something. Yali.

I agree and never said the game doesn't need incentives AT ALL. Just not ones to choose your faction. Balance over all will fix that imo. Unless you feel that all players would play only Destro even if the game were balanced.

Yaliskah wrote:
We have our responsibility in this, mostly because we are dealing with a partial set of keys. Your expectations as players are higher day after day, and your frustrations comes with it. But you have to understand we can't go faster. All this NON PROFESSIONAL project takes time, and there are so much things to do, and so many we can't intereact with atm. Yali.

I'm one hundred percent on the dev's side. I have told players over and over the last three years to relax and wait. You guys aren't professionals and lack many of the tools, time and staff you need.

Yaliskah wrote:
Have personnaly good hope in the next weeks to see important changes in many ways.

Yali.

I hope so.

Haojin wrote:Sadly the main pug population of this server is bunch of leechers/retards

Not a productive comment. Most players have a job and when they log into a game they want to chill, relax and have fun. Just because you choose to organize a warband, have a TS channel and like being a boss doesn't mean everyone does. To organize a wb is personal choice. You might like being organized in your games, but not everyone else does. By not being organized they pay the price of dying more so no need to call them retards or leeches. They aren't, they are players like us.

The facts speak for themselves. If more players wanted to be organized. They would be. Wanting people to be something they don't want to be is insane thinking. So changing the game to force people to be that will only piss them off and drive them off the server. I don't demand you to stop being organized so stop demanding people be more organized.

Druin wrote:

peterthepan3 wrote: You seen how other order players/wbs speak to said premades? No wonder they want nothing to do with the leeches.

straw tail
Are u in jealous group?If no this comment has no sense . No mobbing on you from me! <3

Grolar wrote:
Not a productive comment. Most players have a job and when they log into a game they want to chill, relax and have fun. Just because you choose to organize a warband, have a TS channel and like being a boss doesn't mean everyone does. To organize a wb is personal choice. You might like being organized in your games, but not everyone else does. By not being organized they pay the price of dying more so no need to call them retards or leeches. They aren't, they are players like us.

The facts speak for themselves. If more players wanted to be organized. They would be. Wanting people to be something they don't want to be is insane thinking. So changing the game to force people to be that will only piss them off and drive them off the server. I don't demand you to stop being organized so stop demanding people be more organized.

The thing is whole thread is all about whining about why they losing and the answer is be "organized" + "social". If you insist to play like mindless retard, you gonna lose for sure. You know it better than everyone in this thread mate.

Well Hao calling the more casual players retards will definitely not encourage them to organize more. They simply don't have much time to explore their classes and practice their skills. And that is exactly why we need pug leaders, like you said.

It would be great if people could come to the forums and learn more about their classes, skills, how to improve etc. And also on how the RvR system works, how contribution works, some different group and warband builds and so on. But I guess that is the initiative that the more hardcore and experienced players will have to take. I know there are a lot of threads about all the classes, builds etc., but it seems that people are generally oblivious to the forums.

Collateral wrote: They simply don't have much time to explore their classes and practice their skills.

This is not something you can't do with limited time. It is more like a mindset issue with most people. Building groups and communicating is not something exclusive for people who play 2h+ a day, everyone can do it, but most don't want it for different reasons.
It only becomes absurd when those people moan about being outnumbered and log off because of it.