Telen wrote:Lektroluv wrote:Lol Kotbs not popular?? it is easy to fight against 4 kotbs in scenarios at USA hours, and i say the minimal amount of kotbs order has in every game is 2 at all hours.
Not as a main clearly or there would be more high rr ones. Most players will have multiple characters and many have all the careers on at least the one faction. They will main what they feel the most affinity towards. Be it art style or like me a nostalgia from playing the TT as a kid and having Teclis as my general most of the time.
I dont know why you argue this point as youre contradicting yourself. You say people play kotbs because its the best tank. But just looking whos online right now only Shaman is a more popular class than SH. So that would make them the most op by your reasoning.
You obiusly didn't read full comment, i said order change characters for take advantage of the game mechanic, kotbs in scenarios and range dps or healers in keep defenses,that is what make theyr kotbs beign lower renow ranked than they should be... not the game itself, is the player problem.
The who is online fact you argue about is not valid argument sorry, in a game where mostly all order players and some destruction ones use the game weakness for take advantage of it. For example xrealming after the first dead in open rvr, or play in open RVR for better renow wins which is not as tank friendly as scenarios (Open rvr is the place which make SH'S be hight ranked, not scenarios)
We could talk too about those high number of playing squigh herders you talking about, how many of them were in T4 (yes we must talk about T4, there is where you SH'S end's the love story and come in the mortal's world)
Even if you wanna follow the post logic, KoTBS still has one player in top 20 renow players list.
Where are the Blackguards in list? NONE, i assume they need a magnificent boost which make them OP, like enginers one, because i see a enginer in 4th higher renow player spot.
See? i can use the post demagogy too, and my blackguard will take benefit of the post too, sincerely the Squigh herder is not as cool as order wanna make it look, and all order players wich play one in t4 know this is true... is just a kill stealer with tons of low damage hits, or as some hight ranked and well know enginer say in him squigh herder "is just a debuffer, with very low damage output"
Enginers can shut you down in 2 abilities snipe+focused fire and turret abilities + autoattack + hollowpoints from 140-210 feets range hiting 4 or 5 times harder and with a much more impressive burst, and people winning about SH'S...be serious hahaha
drmordread wrote:
Ranged Disarm and Interrupt and Pet FTW.
Ranged KD, why do people bring it up? SW has one ability that shines, compared to multiple ones for the SH, but it always comes down to the KD. The Squig Herder player is like a miser, he has a ton of gold but is jealous of the SW and his 50 silver! Really?
Stance Swap is not a benefit. Will trade stances for the ability to have all my ranged attacks on one stance just like the SH. Making something out of nothing here? YUP!!!!!!!!!
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I love how every time someone calls out the SH class for being OP the same bunch of people get all offended and cry about how the SH is in need of boosting or is not OP or a whole bunch of stuff to downplay the class. Do you think anyone who has played Order (and does not play a SH) believes this? NOPE!
The SH is the most OP class in the game and has needed a NERF since live. Period.
About the whitch hunter Morrhead... are you joking, you can't kill a SH? it should be your favourite target next to sorcerers!! a toon with 5,5k wounds, wich dies before recover from your KD, and in case he survive will die from your DoT ability if he do not have cleansing winds up? if you don't spend points in dodge-disrupt, if you don't spend points in resolute defense, and now with the granted snare ability WH has, if you don't kill a SH'S is your problem, not SH one.
The Disarm only work tru the pet and that make it very problematic because most of the times you sent pet into a playboy party (is the only way of squigh herder for any noticiable damage) and he is not available next to you, if you don't wanna get disarmed spend some points in dodge like every player is doing (yes i stack 20 points in dodge,disrupts because that range KD from BW-SW you wanna skip talking about,and new enginer 210 feet range)
Actually thar range KD is the best CC killer in game, literaly make almost imposible survive the mele train, and it is the most breaking kite tool, after the pounce fix...as i said before be serious please.
Read what Stinkyweed told you about the shadow warrior class, i think he knows more than you about those two classes.
Edit: Since this post goes about demagogy information. I just went into Who's online section, i selected the characters list be ordered by renow levels amount, and found the first Blackguard in that ranking was in the 64th position.
Wanna make a post about Blackguards needing a boost, and the lack of high ranked players in that class now????
See, i can use demagogy too
and who dies to choppa in kadrin valley 1vs 1 .
), but they don't fear to solo. Most of the time they seem to duo with a healer. There are some much more hardcore premade people then those 3-4 squigs players. 
). I'll stand by what I said though: I almost always see those players with a group. Even if they're just duoing with a shaman (I saw Teefz doing that last night), that's still not solo. Maybe it's just the hours I play. And there's nothing wrong with that. They do play a lot, and they do play well. They're just not exactly "balls to the wall soloing the lakes" as Tankbeardz put it. They aren't exactly avoiding fights either. I've seen Teefz and his group kite whole warbands, for example, and laughed as my fellow order moan about how he must be cheating (he's not).