Nerfed Buttons

[bloodi]

"I think Nerfed Buttons should be banned because you can setup it to make your dinner while you are playing"

"No, you say that because you are bad, i cant play without nerfed buttons because i lost both arms in Vietnam"

Nerfed buttons threads are always great.

[noisestorm]

"I think Nerfed Buttons should be banned because you can setup it to make your dinner while you are playing"

"No, you say that because you are bad, i cant play without nerfed buttons because i lost both arms in Vietnam"

Nerfed buttons threads are always great.

You get one kek from me dear bloodi

[Telperien]

Make poll and lets see where it goes:) or not, it may end like brexit did:)

[Foofighter]

it dosent effect my gameplay at all, but i remember when it did back on live, and sparing that to new comers is more my concern then that of us more veteran players, i just meant to point out that even thou many points made in favor of nb are valid, in the end it's just a 1 buttons push for every right ability at the right time and part of playing this game is learning how that works and how to use it, and you evolve as a player, now since ou can basically out grow nerfed buttons most people that have played for long dont have issues.

i guess what i really want to say is, when you leave it people too choose either to cheat or not, they tend to do it unless they don't need it... which is the case in most veteran players. But just came here to drop my 2 cents on how unfair it can be even if you can outgrow it

[normanis]

so its mean if developers remove nerfed buttons, we will not see anymore whine in forum ? nerf that class or that class because i lose. for me GES and buffhead is bigger cheating, u can see buffs on enemy and u know how far is your guarded player and his name. i dont know what is that addon byt when u look how ather players play on youtube they know withch enemy is guarded or not.
i whanted to know wich addon ppl can use without ban and addons who is bannable. byt is till think if player dont know how to play game than nerfed buttons or ather addons will not help him. beacuse to use nerfed buttons u need to know how to make full potential from that addon, and new players cant know. so problem is old players not new

[Wuhh]

NB has always been a sore point, the main issue (as has been said) is that it chooses what to do next according to a set of parameters the player has decided upon. That in itself surely isn't allowed. I also heard of ways that NB and a gaming keyboard can avoid a GCD, never did find this out for myself as I never used NB.

Cast Sequence however I do use, especially on Live with my IB due to the many abilities. To get rid of NB, imo, would be a good decision. But use of Cast Sequence is a good idea, it performs no checks, and relies on the chain of abilities being used to be setup according to timers, cooldowns, and GCDs. Simple and effective - with no if/and/or parameters.

[GodlessCrom]

How is Buffhead bigger "cheating" than NB? It just moves buffs already on the screen to a more visible area. Full disclosure, I use NB, but only on my Chosen so I can always have Suppression up (it's bound to my snare and my ravage keys, so it always up more or less). I had it set up on my IB, but I found it wasn't that useful. Granted, I never fiddled with conditionals, just cast sequences, which I guess other addons can do as well.

I wouldnt oppose its removal. Everything I use it for is mostly convenience (i.e. maintain one certain buff on a character) that I can do anyways with something like CastSequence. I am an NA player with average ping of 125-136 ms, so NB does help me I suppose by helping eliminate some of the ping concerns (could be wrong on this, but I've heard other NA players say it, so why not?) but mehhhh. I do fine enough without it, and it can definitely be used to automate certain things that should not be automated.

[Nekkma]

How is Buffhead bigger "cheating" than NB?

Neither is cheating as both addons are allowed right now.

From a healer perspective enemy (with buffhead) is way more beneficial. Seeing healingdebuffs and other debuffs plus your own hots etc greatly improve healer performance. I can't even comprehend playing without it tbh.

[GodlessCrom]

How is Buffhead bigger "cheating" than NB?

Neither is cheating as both addons are allowed right now.

From a healer perspective enemy (with buffhead) is way more beneficial. Seeing healingdebuffs and other debuffs plus your own hots etc greatly improve healer performance. I can't even comprehend playing without it tbh.

Hence why "cheating" was in quotations. I don't think either are cheating, but a poster above me stated they were, which kinda flabbergasted me since Buffhead doesn't automate anything, it just gives you information (powerful info, but info nonetheless), whereas NerfedButtons can do some stuff that potentially reduces the skill ceiling of the game (which is rather low relatively speaking, compared to others game I've played like DOTA, Counter-Strike, Mount/Blade, or Chivalry) such as preventing you from wasting a knockdown or knockback by automatically detecting the immunity on a player. Something you should be looking out for anyways as a player, but if you mess up, it can screw you over. NB takes that away.

If the devs choose to keep NB in, that's fine I guess. But I do think it provides some advantages that are a tad imbalanced. Cast sequencing is fine IMO, but other addons do it too without the conditionals.

[wargrimnir]

This thread is literally the same every week or so. Someone cries. NB is blamed. Devs handwring. People threaten to leave/quit. Little is gained (pandering) and some are lost (dependent NB users).

I should just go find the wall that I posted last time and keep it handy.