SH vs SW difference

[noisestorm]

As things are now Gankbus members will create alt accountss to continue posting in the forums.

FTFY

[Vrierst]

IMO, SH does more dps than SW, due to the excesive and massive damage that spike squig is currenty doing in the server, and the new nerf of the SW's festerbombing specs, but, probably, SH has a little less survival capacities. However, they are just putting the pet on the target and they are letting them to do the work while they are fleeing away, so they don't need the survival abilities, just the pets do.

It's difficult to compare mirror careers in this game because they are never a 100% mirror image. SH is very similar to the SW, but SW is similar to the Mara too, and SH is a player with pet, like the WL, so, we mustn't try to balance SH with SW, we must balance full parties, or full warbands.

The better way to make a SW better than a SH is not to nerf the SH. Putting the SW in the correct place of the warband, being protected by other players, is the way.

Remember this game is not an arcade. It is a mmorpg, and sociability and teamworking make the real difference. So SH is better than any other careers cause the are always playing 2vs1 except vs WL, but WL has not range enough to reach those little greenskins, so SH is an OP career being mainly played by bad players that usually play in their own without group because they usually don't need a group to kill disorganized people.

That's why they are permacrying in the forums all the time: Cause they think they are so good players that the fact of being reckted by an organized and sociable player means necessaryly that their career is bad. But their first hypothesis is not true: They are not so good, so their conclusion is false too: The SH is not bad.

May Isha bless you!

[TenTonHammer]

The problem with equating and justifying things with sh pets espically spike squig that the nature of the current pet ai makes that not a consistent factor

If you get what I mean

That wonky derp ai still ha a issues that result is it going and getting it's self killed at no fault of the player which results in a significant loss of for 30s

[tomato]

@OP: Pet dmg isn't counted in sc statistics, so obv. sh will have lower dmg statistics.

That is the anwser to your OP question.

Pet dmg is counted in sc statistics. Don't believe? sent you SH (if you have one) pet to attack and see the chart.

https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/1229

@Tkless I'm not hating on anyone. I'm just trying to correct the typical "I main X, so please buff X and nerf its mirror."
Or something like "realm X is complety better than Y, that's the only reason I die."
(Which btw are 95% of balance threads in this forum, and that's pretty annoying)

If you can't see that I'm sorry...

If you want factual stuff read my first breakdown of sh and sw. (More facts than all of Mursies combined.)

[Azarael]

Pretty sure this is fixed.

[tomato]

Alright looked still open to me, but then there's no reason for sh to have low dmg statistics anymore.

@Mursie Yes friend, you are the hero this forum and the pugs deserve, stay strong.

[ruv]

You know,

SH and SW are very close. SH pet is a a pain. I am in full Dev. We are pretty close. It's who gets the first draw. LOL. I really think we are pretty equal. Now Sorc's are way OP.

Ruvarian

[Euan]

SW is better but its pretty close. Spiked Squig will be a non factor when armor increases.

[greenstoned]

got torn appart by squigs in t2 yet sh's were not at the top of the dmg done, seems like pet dmg isnt displayed on the roster

also, rank 28 bolstered squigs seriously hurt, multiple assisting sh is pretty much instant :| now ^^

[kok]

https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/1229

Like what I said, TEST IT YOURSELF and not posting something that is 5 month only and more than 10 patches later.
Say You do "have" a SH right?

The Majority of SH problem is that pet is bugged especially in anything bigger than 12 vs 12 SC.
It can run off collecting fruit or flower somewhere ignoring any command you issue.

For anyone who falsely claim that squig pet do a lot of dmg, PLEASE ROLL ONE AND SEE HOW MUCH IT DO.
If it so OP, why I don't see that many of them?