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Re: Changelog 17.02.2016
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:56 pm
by Penril
lator wrote:As it seems all the AM/SW kiting machines have already taken over this thread (as expected), I want to leave my own thoughts for the posterity about the bunny hopping bandage fix: it is 100% fair and I love it, good job!
I play mostly tanks. TK plays mostly WH and WE. Try again.
Re: Changelog 17.02.2016
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:57 pm
by TenTonHammer
DefinitelyNotWingz wrote:
Also this "fix" was enforced on us which is not the way I am used to since we talk about every other crappy change for at least 20 pages.
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... ilit=Bunny
Re: Changelog 17.02.2016
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:59 pm
by Penril
Only 4 pages of discussion, in 2 days, and closed 40 days ago.
Re: Changelog 17.02.2016
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:59 pm
by Tklees
Torquemadra wrote:Tklees wrote:I jump a lot on my RP and platforming is part of any MMO as Penril pointed out. I understand that people have exploited this but this is a huge nerf to kiting in a game already dominated by melee and two medium armor healers. Thats my biggest issue with the change. Not the fact that it snares, which sucks but is workable, but that it buffs the already strong melee and WP/DoK meta. Anything besides a snare would be better than this for the cloth class healers and rdps.
It's not a nerf it's a fix, random jumping isn't able to be factored into balance equations in any shape or form. If this truly hurts a class it can be buffed through abilities. It's asinine for ranged to have and advantage just by jumping.
Then put a cooldown on jump. Or make it cost AP. Snaring them is too big of a nerf to these classes. And it's not a "fix". A fix would be if jumping didn't affect forward movement. It's a bandaid to a problem that needs stitches and a ton of antibiotics at this point. I love the Dev team and I volunteered to be a part of helping out in any way that I can but I think something different should be looked at.
Re: Changelog 17.02.2016
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:00 pm
by Toldavf
I know nothing about coding but I remember that jumping forces the sever to update your position is calling this not possible?
For example I jump once my position is updated the cap is engaged because I'm in combat I jump again I get no update until the regular interval?
Re: Changelog 17.02.2016
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:01 pm
by DefinitelyNotWingz
Penril wrote:
Only 4 pages of discussion, in 2 days, and closed 40 days ago.
Obviously not a serious topic, renork OP, aza trolling, silvermf still not banned. Categorie: Off-Topic.
Re: Changelog 17.02.2016
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:01 pm
by TenTonHammer
Arbich wrote:
nah, not intended. I used to play like this also on live (without any NA-players). But you are right, I should try to avoid it a bit, if possible, but only on open field and only when I not change my direction. Believe me, I try
But the arguments against this change are valid. Why not change to higher getting damage, when getting hit after 2-3 jumps?
Bunny hopping affects melee
Higher damage is irrelevant when their character is warping and none of your melee attacks can reach
Re: Changelog 17.02.2016
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:04 pm
by bloodi
My problem with all this is that we have been jumpin in retail for years and now suddenly we are all exploiters and shhould be ashamed.
The game forces you to do it a lot of the time to kite, there is terrain that you will never be able to run past without jumping, we cannot just forget years of muscle memory because now you feel like we are cheaters that are exploiting things.
Re: Changelog 17.02.2016
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:05 pm
by Jail
Must be a joke. Who would seriously come up with this idea? this is just.....
Re: Changelog 17.02.2016
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:09 pm
by whstl
Regarding bunnyhopping: I am new to the server and I wasn't aware of this problem here. I have nothing against the "fix".
But this kind sir just took the words from my mouth.
bloodi wrote:My problem with all this is that we have been jumpin in retail for years and now suddenly we are all exploiters and shhould be ashamed.
The game forces you to do it a lot of the time to kite, there is terrain that you will never be able to run past without jumping, we cannot just forget years of muscle memory because now you feel like we are cheaters that are exploiting things.