It's time to Profile our DDOS'er

[mursie]

This is verry,verry,verry bad idea. What if main ddos wave comes from usa? Lets ban US region first! We could continue like that region by region,country by country. Baning certain regions because we presume(without evidence),that attacks come from those countries is not healthy for comunity.

If we always managed to the exception (i.e. - don't ban an IP because maybe just maybe that IP is legit) - very little would be accomplished. The reality is that a block of certain very well known high threat region IP's would help deter a great probability of attacks. Is it 100% - no. But it does work and you can be sure that games in the business of making real money (i.e. Tera) would not take such action unless it truly were more advantageous than not.

[mursie]

I never seen terrible idea like this Its will be big mistake for future
Yes Im asian player, im korean. I really love this game and was so happy with play RoR recently 1month and lots of korean players here and my japanesse friend too
But you need kick us for your comfortable game playing? what a selfish evil?
Yes you can keep play this lovely game with chosen US,UK players through pushing out other unchosen people like us!
So you think its "Justice" right? its fair isnt it?
Sorry for my horrible english i just disappointed about this terrible selfish suggestion and that "agree" replys....

Im just looking one picture at this moment

Taebaal - I love you. You're a great Black Orc tank (this is Soze the choppa by the way. We have gamed many many times and I've personally tried to recruit you a billion times over )

Yes - it sux to have to restrict IP's. It truly does. I wish the world wouldn't ddos. I wish certain regions weren't very prolific in their attacks of this nature. I wish we could all get along. But let me ask you something friend, how much WAR RoR did you or myself play this past 48 hours? the answer is zero. And this issue is becoming more and more systemic. Each attack knocks out the server not just for hours...but now days.

I would hope that perhaps certain players like yourself could be granted certain IP authorization to allow you in despite a region block.

Anyways - this is an idea. An idea that is being implemented by other games that are currently in the business of making actual money. They are doing it to remain profitable because the attacks from these specific regions are ridiculously high and the threat outweighs the cost of those players. It is sad...but unfortunately - it is also true.

[Drogwar]

Ban ip connected not only with the protection of servers Tеrra, but also with the marketing side. Publishers divide the world into areas of influence and various local companies that are interested in it too.
Putting such a measure in the PoP will not help solve the problem of DDoS. But it grows increasingly dissatisfied masses of people, who are frustrated by such injustice.

[mursie]

Ban ip connected not only with the protection of servers Tеrra, but also with the marketing side. Publishers divide the world into areas of influence and various local companies that are interested in it too.
Putting such a measure in the PoP will not help solve the problem of DDoS. But it grows increasingly dissatisfied masses of people, who are frustrated by such injustice.

ok - please forget i made a suggestion then. Let's just sit back and do nothing - that seems to be productive.

Also - just as an FYI. Please again go and review CloudFlare's steps for mitigating a DDOS attack. I posted the link earlier in this thread. SPecifically - check out step 6.

You're probably right, despite a company advertising its services for DDOS protection, and despite them specifically outlining a step that blocks regions/specific IP's... it all probably actually doesn't work. Also - please disregard that games currently active and making money use this type of measure.

Rather - let's just whine and moan about how we're mad at DDOS'ers and do nothing constructive to solve the problem. In so doing...we all can sit idle while the server is down...and enjoy our new found free time dreaming up ways we would beat up said DDOS'er in real life.

[RyanMakara]

Post a few of the ips hitting the server. It's not that hard to turn a botnet against its owner

I do not think the RoR devs feel like fighting fire with fire when it can get them in trouble with the law.

That's why I asked them to post some of the ips. There's more than a few of us who know what to do

Thereby the devs would still be responsible for at least encouraging a DDOS counter-attacks by publishing personal info, which is still in the same, fighting fire with fire, and thus an illegal act.

If you do not agree with having this server DDOSed and wish for it to be up forever and ever, don't encourage measures that would put the entire project into jeopardy. Be it through active counter-DDOSing from the devs themselves, or its community. Don't stoop to this DDOSing asshole's level.

[Drogwar]

Ban ip connected not only with the protection of servers Tеrra, but also with the marketing side. Publishers divide the world into areas of influence and various local companies that are interested in it too.
Putting such a measure in the PoP will not help solve the problem of DDoS. But it grows increasingly dissatisfied masses of people, who are frustrated by such injustice.

ok - please forget i made a suggestion then. Let's just sit back and do nothing - that seems to be productive.

Also - just as an FYI. Please again go and review CloudFlare's steps for mitigating a DDOS attack. I posted the link earlier in this thread. SPecifically - check out step 6.

You're probably right, despite a company advertising its services for DDOS protection, and despite them specifically outlining a step that blocks regions/specific IP's... it all probably actually doesn't work. Also - please disregard that games currently active and making money use this type of measure.

Rather - let's just whine and moan about how we're mad at DDOS'ers and do nothing constructive to solve the problem. In so doing...we all can sit idle while the server is down...and enjoy our new found free time dreaming up ways we would beat up said DDOS'er in real life.

I'm not a developer RoR, I do not know the server architecture, I do not know the logic queries and other server login. I'm not going to give advice to people more adept in matters of IT security, just because of the fact that I am an expert in another area. If look at that the developers have done, I conclude that I trust them their time spent.

And yes, show me where I cry?

[mursie]

I'm not a developer RoR, I do not know the server architecture, I do not know the logic queries and other server login. I'm not going to give advice to people more adept in matters of IT security, just because of the fact that I am an expert in another area. If look at that the developers have done, I conclude that I trust them their time spent.

And yes, show me where I cry?

Your comments are very interesting. You claim you are not a developer RoR, so you aren't going to give advice to people more adept in matters of IT security.

So be it, here is the thing. RoR developers aren't IT Security experts. Infact, they lease their hardware and the security of said hardware to third parties like OVH and CloudFlare, because they aren't experts in that matter. Rather - the RoR developers are experts on developing RoR - the game.

So, here in lies the conundrum. You aren't a developer expert but trust RoR developers based on their RoR development. One would conclude that you would then also trust actual IT security personnel like CloudFlare since they are infact - IT experts. in so doing, you would therefore trust their steps to mitigate DDOS attacks...which in so doing, would be to respect step 6 - BLOCK REGION & SPECIFIC IPS.

Thank you for your time.

[mursie]

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[bloodi]

Hey, is this the thread where i can be racist in the name of good will?

[boog]

So just because my wife and I live in the Caribbean (or wherever) you says it's okay to unfairly ban us from playing the game?

That is some Donald Trump ****.

Sorry but banning players from playing the game is (unintentionally I'm sure) racist. Imagine a politician (or anyone for that matter) saying we are banning everyone from x country because people from x country are all criminals.

And what is to say that DDoS attacks won't happen from the unbanned countries? U can download a program (name escapes me) and get the server info and literally press one button and walk away and DDoS whatever u want for as long as u want or until they find you.