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Coryphaus
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Re: Why the magus hate?

Post#61 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:04 pm

Nishka wrote:Ok so I've been playing magus today... After almost a year break. t1, 11 level but severly undergeared without any tals. Can't say I've been the first to get focused. In fact, I've played 5 scenes and died 0 times, always in the top-3 of scene damagers. Maybe you get focused because you jump into the middle of an enemy melee train and try to aoe them down?
Getting top dmg in scs means jack ****.


I could spend an entire sc hammering on 1 healer but they just heal up all the dmg i do so i never kill them but in the sc board it could say i did 100k dmg, so as you can see sc dmg numbers are deciving and for magus spreading out aoe n dots its not hard to "have big dmg on the sc score board" but its all fluff dmg for now cause with all the healers ordo has the can eaisly deal with you.
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Renork
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Re: Why the magus hate?

Post#62 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:11 pm

Coryphaus wrote:
Nishka wrote:Ok so I've been playing magus today... After almost a year break. t1, 11 level but severly undergeared without any tals. Can't say I've been the first to get focused. In fact, I've played 5 scenes and died 0 times, always in the top-3 of scene damagers. Maybe you get focused because you jump into the middle of an enemy melee train and try to aoe them down?
Getting top dmg in scs means jack ****.


I could spend an entire sc hammering on 1 healer but they just heal up all the dmg i do so i never kill them but in the sc board it could say i did 100k dmg, so as you can see sc dmg numbers are deciving and for magus spreading out aoe n dots its not hard to "have big dmg on the sc score board" but its all fluff dmg for now cause with all the healers ordo has the can eaisly deal with you.

Come on Cory, you're smarter than that. doofus is just trolling you.

Abolition
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Re: Why the magus hate?

Post#63 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:30 pm

Nishka wrote:Ok so I've been playing magus today... After almost a year break. t1, 11 level but severly undergeared without any tals. Can't say I've been the first to get focused. In fact, I've played 5 scenes and died 0 times, always in the top-3 of scene damagers. Maybe you get focused because you jump into the middle of an enemy melee train and try to aoe them down?
Just wait until you get to Tier 2, where you get your AOE dots.
You'll get to do 200k+ damage with zero killing blows!
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Renork
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Re: Why the magus hate?

Post#64 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:31 pm

Abolition wrote:
Nishka wrote:Ok so I've been playing magus today... After almost a year break. t1, 11 level but severly undergeared without any tals. Can't say I've been the first to get focused. In fact, I've played 5 scenes and died 0 times, always in the top-3 of scene damagers. Maybe you get focused because you jump into the middle of an enemy melee train and try to aoe them down?
Just wait until you get to Tier 2, where you get your AOE dots.
You'll get to do 200k+ damage with zero killing blows!
:mrgreen:

Sulorie
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Re: Why the magus hate?

Post#65 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:34 pm

Some magi cultivate the impression in peoples minds that scoreboard numbers say how effective a class is.
Dying is no option.

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Renork
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Re: Why the magus hate?

Post#66 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:41 pm

Sulorie wrote:Some magi cultivate the impression in peoples minds that scoreboard numbers say how effective a class is.

and that's one of the reasons the class was never taken seriously or looked at. There was always some dbag that would say OMG I LIEK GOT 1,000,000 in dmg IM SO LIKE GEWK U GUYS R LIEK NUBS MAGI R FINE.

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Re: Why the magus hate?

Post#67 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:42 pm

I wonder where people take the idea that dmg numbers mean nothing? You know, damage doesn't just go away somewhere. Each point of damage must be healed out by someone or people will start dying. A healer may outheal the damage you deal to him, but that just means he won't be healing someone else. Without you doing damage to him he'd be more effective in holding the group. Get it? I really dk how to explain :(
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Abolition
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Re: Why the magus hate?

Post#68 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:01 pm

Nishka wrote:... but that just means he won't be healing someone else....(
Group heal. Group HOTs.

I do see what you're saying, and I do agree with it. That said, without some decent direct damage from other sources, your AOE DOTs are simply going to be healed through with little effort.

Personally, I love running with a Magus on my Sorceress, because that AOE spirit resist debuff is fantastic and allows me to burn through people quicker. I feel the Magus is a good utility class.
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peterthepan3
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Re: Why the magus hate?

Post#69 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:02 pm

The only thing that comes close to resembling 'skill' in the scenario boards is a high DB count to a low dmg.

20000K and 2kbs = not effective.
80k and 8 kbs = much more effective.
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Sulorie
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Re: Why the magus hate?

Post#70 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:05 pm

I really don't know how to teach the underhive.
At least some statements in other threads become clear now.
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