WElf Nerf

[nat3s]

If you gear glass cannon, then you're accepting you're a glass cannon!! Problem is not def specs there... They are specifically designed to exploit that weakness.

says who?

You think glass cannon should be all cannon no glass? Good luck with that!

[nat3s]

And what spec is there to exploit Def spec weakness?

RP, Zeal, AM, Sham and some Slayer builds currently.

[nat3s]

Nothing wrong with def spec or regen if they hit a bit.

The problem the welf can do a very well dmg without any invest to offensive stat.

And yes there are other def spec but imo nothing close to def regen welf.

Def WE is not close to the best def spec in the game and does low damage, see my links to duels myself and Solater had with some WLs, almost all long fights with multiple pot use cycles and disengage/reengage loops.

If you gear glass cannon, then you're accepting you're a glass cannon!! Problem is not def specs there... They are specifically designed to exploit that weakness.

Its a alot of dmg without any offensive stat, i think igs out of the question.

How many times a welf can maka a AA in a sec 3-4?
Its 180 magic dmg, toughness armor wont reduce and the welf get heal from it and make healdebuff and is a free proc doesnt even need action point.
With zero str

Witchbrew 2100 dmg/3sec with zero offensive stat. This is huge and its magic so they dont even had to worry about armor. Toughness also wont reduce it. This is absurd. Thats sure.
For comparsation a full glass cannon 2 handed slayer can hit 1240 with spellbreaker with condition amd cost and reduced armor.
And this go aganist armor and toughness.
You have to see why this is so absurd.
Welf go full def regen and can do this dmg while class cannon make that dmg.
Its far from fair.

Ahh now that's getting at the heart of the issue. The thing is, people massively overvalue crit chance, a def spec sacrifices only crit chance, they'll still be capped or near capped in str/int, so for all def specs, you do lower damage, but still reasonable. RP, Zeal, Def WL, def AM, def Mag for instance can still nuke people down and quicker than a def WE. Def engi too for that matter which is a sleeper spec atm.

It's about understanding. People are attracted to glass cannon because "omg big crit % looks cool in UI, it must be optimal"... They don't understand stat weightings. You'll see people using crit talis for Sent/Tri/Vic jewel over mag power/melee power/armour pen reduction/parry which is often (not always) the wrong choice. It's just conditioned into some players to want to be glass cannons.

A def WE does less damage than def WL, RP, Zeal, Magus, AM.

If def WE is nerfed, you'll be back in a few months time wondering where all the def WLs and RPs came from!!

[Keula]

7 Pages in 30h?

I need more popcorn...

[Fey]

The biggest issue with WH/WE is the punt ability on full sov. Whoever approved that I will nominate for a Torc award.

A nerf solo WE thread arrived at a, "nerf all armor values," conclusion. You know they did that, not too long ago.

You solo'rs are crazy man.

[vanbuinen77]

^^
The punt from stealth was absurd

[lumpi33]

Feinted Positioning armor ignore should be looked at first before taking any other actions. And yeah, pounce should not be on that class. Their self absorb needs to be reduced to 400 as well.