Return of Reckoning

M0rw47h wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:14 pm

Nelly74 wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:01 pm

M0rw47h wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 6:47 pm

I don't think so, players are biased as f***.
They often think class is underperforming, just because they are underperforming. Thus, lots of feedback is completly worthless.

So you’re saying that most of the people complaining about these changes are doing so just because they’re bad? That’s strange, because I recognize quite a few usernames I’ve faced here in solo or in 6-man, and many of them are very far from being bad. Not exactly a convincing argument.

Imagine same players were complaining when slayer was the best class in the game and serious guilds ran slayer stacks, you shouldn't take them seriously at all.

There can be some complaining just to complain and some protective of the class, but at this time I would say its legit. Its really in a bad state now. If one plays it often one can feel the diffrence for sure

its crystal clear to me that the devs of this server are real life elfs.
Only elfs and dark elfs classes have the right to have pretty things and fun.
The rest of races only get gutted skills and nerfs everywhere.....

ravezaar wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:37 pm

M0rw47h wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:14 pm

Nelly74 wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:01 pm
So you’re saying that most of the people complaining about these changes are doing so just because they’re bad? That’s strange, because I recognize quite a few usernames I’ve faced here in solo or in 6-man, and many of them are very far from being bad. Not exactly a convincing argument.

Imagine same players were complaining when slayer was the best class in the game and serious guilds ran slayer stacks, you shouldn't take them seriously at all.

There can be some complaining just to complain and some protective of the class, but at this time I would say its legit. Its really in a bad state now. If one plays it often one can feel the diffrence for sure

What if real issue is different?
What if Slayer after changes isn't too weak, but WL is too good in comparison. While Choppa doesn't seem to suffer compared to Marauder.

NO cause anyone who plays Slayer/Choppa now or actually targets them see its the Xtra dmg taken for that class now thats the issue, no special skill or tactic nerf. Just the Xtra dmg taken from all sources that makes the class weakest its ever bin.

Its simple as that, a balance mistake. Hopefully something the adress.

Rest of the skill, tactic, rage changes is fine, they are trying stuff, wont work out but whatever. The Xtra dmg taken tho needs to be reverted.

Just remove the –25% debuff and the class will regain some appeal.
For now, it’s absolutely not competitive, no matter how it’s played or built.

SL and Choppa are very good.
It only needs a few changes, as I mentioned earlier.

SL ID - remove damage reduction on the main target.
SL/Choppa GFDSS/ SC - remove damage reduction.

I don't mind the 25% debuff on yellow.
But if the SL/Choppa community is pushing so hard, maybe it should be reconsidered.

Devs look at Fortress win/loss record since the patch, Order losing SL from its already thin frontline gimped the faction hard.

Like this week there needs to be a patch to remove the +25% dmg in yellow.

Let’s hope they finally come to their senses on this issue…