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Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:44 pm
by Twyxx
magter3001 wrote:
Twyxx wrote:I'm saying a cooldown on pounce would make it virtually useless in the terms of its utility and practicality.
...And what knockdown though :P Can't get KD atm unless you pass on pounce.
I wasn't talking about WL knockdown :lol:

You usually run with a IB anyways so I guess knockdown doesn't matter. ;)
Wrong, Halhammer is my guardbot.
Though if we're talking in terms of solo'ing on a WL that wouldn't be much of an option so >inc pounce :lol:

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:27 am
by thickfreakness
What about a .5 second cooldown? :D

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:29 am
by Twyxx
thickfreakness wrote:What about a .5 second cooldown? :D
You're trying to kill me D:

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:50 am
by Coryphaus
I thought all Hal did was afk in mandred while he made the rest of DoE farm seeds for him


I get it twynxx "wl needs pounce" but you've seen other wls in sc's they way their using the ability is anything but how it was intended to be used for


All this to as to "counter" a tactic, not even a class but a tactic.... Out our curiosity why can't a wh be used against shammys? They have kd, burst all all other tools to deal with healers

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:52 am
by bandshark
Also, the best counter to run away isn't pounce... it's snare. Use snare, knockdown, and your squishy gobbo is as good as dead. ;)
Snare can be cleansed and knock down has a long immunity timer, pounce cannot.

Just making fun of the fact that order always defend those skills with "but Shamans have RUN AWAY
They also have auto detaunt, I bet Am's would like both.


Also, if range doesn't want a WL to pounce to them on a keep, then don't stand at the edge of a keep and cast on otherwise helpless melee.


Lets work on fixing LOS issues on range classes, at least pounce can be defended with LOS.

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:58 am
by Coryphaus
It's not auto detaunt

WBY? Is an rng based proc just like RA! and only reduces 25% of the dmg not 50


And also I'm on my phone so I can't quote the poster above me but I find it galati out when you say don't stand on the edge and "attack helpless melee" when that's exactly what Ordo does and destro can't respond in kind like white lions do

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:00 am
by bandshark
It's not auto detaunt
No, but it procs automatically AOE (symantics) , and proc often.

Gits wanna be invincible? Seems like where most of the QQ stems from.


Where do we stop with the adjustments from live? Because our small game community knows way more than a multi million dollar company about mirror balancing?


The only way to stop the QQ is ditch the mirror system. So we're going to change the game from warhammer to wowhammer?

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:12 am
by Twyxx
Coryphaus wrote:I thought all Hal did was afk in mandred while he made the rest of DoE farm seeds for him


I get it twynxx "wl needs pounce" but you've seen other wls in sc's they way their using the ability is anything but how it was intended to be used for


All this to as to "counter" a tactic, not even a class but a tactic.... Out our curiosity why can't a wh be used against shammys? They have kd, burst all all other tools to deal with healers
As was mentioned in a previous thread, the only way I would accept a CD on pounce is if the switch in the tree happens and WL receives some other fixes (which have already been talked about).

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:18 am
by bandshark
Ap limits pounce as is, have any of you complaining even played a Wl?

You realize a Wl that relies heavily on Pounce to get to their target has no AP to dps once there?

Also, according to the armory the OP Wl class seems to be very under represented.


I count 8 RR 30 WL currently. I guess those 8 have really owned a few of you! Kudos to them. I play a healer btw.

Re: White Lions pouncing up into keeps

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:22 am
by Coryphaus
Twyxx wrote:
Coryphaus wrote:I thought all Hal did was afk in mandred while he made the rest of DoE farm seeds for him


I get it twynxx "wl needs pounce" but you've seen other wls in sc's they way their using the ability is anything but how it was intended to be used for


All this to as to "counter" a tactic, not even a class but a tactic.... Out our curiosity why can't a wh be used against shammys? They have kd, burst all all other tools to deal with healers
As was mentioned in a previous thread, the only way I would accept a CD on pounce is if the switch in the tree happens and WL receives some other fixes (which have already been talked about).

Ofc; all the statements I made in the ability modification thread were made on the assumption that such changes would be made and I don't think their is a single person who will deny that wl needs changes of such nature


And yes band shark I do do belive that our community DOES know better than mythic and secondly i did play wl on live till lvl 38 rr 58 and ap wasn't an issue on live due to ap pots and pots that inc ap regen rate as well as gear that inc ap regen rate

Infact not a single class had issues with ap late game to my knowledge