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Re: Proposal: Discordant SC Weekly Event

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:44 am
by Caleb
Everdin wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:33 am Surprise surprise, same thing people say now and was never true...
And you are so sure of that.....on what basis exactly?

Solo/Duo queue abuse is a very well known exploit players have been doing in games for years in many different games and titles that have such queues - it is much more likely that if several people on the forums are reporting people have been doing it, and have seen it that it is true - than that somehow in Warhammer Online the community has been so healthy and generous and kind that doing such against the rules action is beyond them.

Because no way has anyone ever done something like Queue Abuse, Xrealm into Defensive Keeps, Coordinate Forts for Bags or organize Kill-Trading? :idea:

Re: Proposal: Discordant SC Weekly Event

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:51 am
by nocturnalguest
Caleb wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:44 am
Everdin wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:33 am Surprise surprise, same thing people say now and was never true...
And you are so sure of that.....on what basis exactly?

Solo/Duo queue abuse is a very well known exploit players have been doing in games for years in many different games and titles that have such queues - it is much more likely that if several people on the forums are reporting people have been doing it, and have seen it that it is true - than that somehow in Warhammer Online the community has been so healthy and generous and kind that doing such against the rules action is beyond them.

Because no way has anyone ever done something like Queue Abuse, Xrealm into Defensive Keeps, Coordinate Forts for Bags or organize Kill-Trading? :idea:
You can ask wargrimnir how many people were banned for that. You will be surprised. Thats an urban legend, nobody ever prove proper stacking in discordant. Also forum is not a proper place to report issues. There are GMs for that. Stop this nonsense already...

The only real minor thing some not so smart folks do is kill trading. Rest is not against rules anyhow.

Re: Proposal: Discordant SC Weekly Event

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:10 am
by Caleb
nocturnalguest wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:51 am You can ask wargrimnir how many people were banned for that. You will be surprised. Thats an urban legend, nobody ever prove proper stacking in discordant. Also forum is not a proper place to report issues. There are GMs for that. Stop this nonsense already...

The only real minor thing some not so smart folks do is kill trading. Rest is not against rules anyhow.
Not sure if I'd call it nonsense that if a part of a playerbase is prone to stacking numbers in RvR and several other parts of the game in order to gain unhealthy game benefits from it - that somehow it is just "urban legend" that the same thing is happening in Scenarios, just because there aren't enough Bans ( Not Reports ) from Gamemasters on the topic. Despite several people reporting it and saying it, with decades of examples of this happening in other MMORPGs with similar queues as well.

Some might say the opposite is denial instead.

Re: Proposal: Discordant SC Weekly Event

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:31 am
by tromat
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=22119

Some people proc in Discordant, even when tagging for normal Scenarios.

Re: Proposal: Discordant SC Weekly Event

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:42 am
by sioding
Feels aber bit derailing when we now talk about some maybe buggy qeueuing problems. OP was about getting Weekend Warfront for solo sc playerbase.

Re: Proposal: Discordant SC Weekly Event

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:51 am
by Everdin
Caleb wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:10 am
nocturnalguest wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:51 am You can ask wargrimnir how many people were banned for that. You will be surprised. Thats an urban legend, nobody ever prove proper stacking in discordant. Also forum is not a proper place to report issues. There are GMs for that. Stop this nonsense already...

The only real minor thing some not so smart folks do is kill trading. Rest is not against rules anyhow.
Not sure if I'd call it nonsense that if a part of a playerbase is prone to stacking numbers in RvR and several other parts of the game in order to gain unhealthy game benefits from it - that somehow it is just "urban legend" that the same thing is happening in Scenarios, just because there aren't enough Bans ( Not Reports ) from Gamemasters on the topic. Despite several people reporting it and saying it, with decades of examples of this happening in other MMORPGs with similar queues as well.

Some might say the opposite is denial instead.
You put the important information in parentheses, it's not about nobody gets banned, it's about nobody gets reportet. People get stompt by same people in discordant and cry out, cause why should they loose otherwise? Enemy is better? No way! But they seem not sure enough to report it.

To come back to the topic, if even possible this allegations got even louder with the change (less people in que, more chances that it's always the same people you meet).
Removing duos had no positive effect on discordant and was a bad idea. Reactivate this would cause in much more frequent pops with a more diverse mix of players and would also have a positive effect on standard SC cause it would remove duos from there, so you have at least 3 man groups there.

Re: Proposal: Discordant SC Weekly Event

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:17 pm
by Lilim
It's a shame it had to come this again, that people completely derailing a thread. If we see this kind of behaviour again in the future, it will result in a warning. It's really sad, because I like suggestions that are more than 3 sentences long.