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Re: Class Power Rankings

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:47 pm
by Novgoroth
I was speaking of T2 RoR ...

Re: Class Power Rankings

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:47 pm
by Jaycub
Yes but if we are talking about T4 and not the current "endgame" meta on the server, this type of chart doesn't work as well because some classes shine in certain specs where others will fall short.

DPS Dok/Chosen is far better than their mirror, whereas tank KotBS and Heal WP are clearly better.

I'm sure someone could come up with a better chart that has an X axis as well that scales something, but I just can't think of anything meaningful atm.


Also Tesq said his chart was not for T2 but i'm guessing endgame on live.

Re: Class Power Rankings

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:34 pm
by Coryphaus
Why do you rate IB so low in the pack Tesq? Its pretty dam strong

Re: Class Power Rankings

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:36 pm
by RyanMakara
Jaycub wrote:Yes but if we are talking about T4 and not the current "endgame" meta on the server, this type of chart doesn't work as well because some classes shine in certain specs where others will fall short.

DPS Dok/Chosen is far better than their mirror, whereas tank KotBS and Heal WP are clearly better.

I'm sure someone could come up with a better chart that has an X axis as well that scales something, but I just can't think of anything meaningful atm.


Also Tesq said his chart was not for T2 but i'm guessing endgame on live.
Well you COULD make a comparitive chart with DPS on the X axis and healing/survivability on the Y axis. I could probably do that right now, actually

Re: Class Power Rankings

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:05 pm
by RyanMakara
Okay, so here's the template for charting your opinion on the abilities of all 24 classes to do DPS damage (mainly burst, sorry magus~) and keep themselves/others alive.

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and here's my opinion on the matter.

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Debate away!

Re: Class Power Rankings

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:11 pm
by TenTonHammer
Hmmm I agree with a vast majority of that and that discrepancy between choppa and slayer better be addressed

Re: Class Power Rankings

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:59 pm
by Jaycub
RyanMakara wrote:Okay, so here's the template for charting your opinion on the abilities of all 24 classes to do DPS damage (mainly burst, sorry magus~) and keep themselves/others alive.

I tweaked it a bit, and added off specs for healers, I think it works better this way? IDK what do you think? Zealot and RP has no dps spec atm, dps don't have offspecs, maybe add dps variants of tanks? But with lack of masteries I don't think it really matters much in their case?

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Re: Class Power Rankings

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:30 am
by Vigfuss
It would make much more sense to look at what a class brings to a group. Call it utility, raw healing, survivability and damage are something, but it's easy to overlook a lot of other important stuff.

Re: Class Power Rankings

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:42 am
by Telen
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Re: Class Power Rankings

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:47 am
by RyanMakara
Vigfuss wrote:It would make much more sense to look at what a class brings to a group. Call it utility, raw healing, survivability and damage are something, but it's easy to overlook a lot of other important stuff.
If I had to do that I'll have to make a 4 grid graph.. it'll get complicated :P