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Nekkma
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#61 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:46 pm

Stop whining and propose what utility should be stripped in exchange for more damage and fun solo times. Lets remove punt in 2h so you can have BO level of fun as tank.
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#62 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:17 pm

Nekkma wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:46 pm Stop whining and propose what utility should be stripped in exchange for more damage and fun solo times. Lets remove punt in 2h so you can have BO level of fun as tank.
lol what, you read what it was about, kotbs just didn't have anything useful left, he's a guard-bot
almost any class on this server received some kind of bonus in exchange for nerfs, SH, SW, BO, WE, WH, Sham, etc. the list is big.
but the knight is not there
WH - mdpv 80+
WE - Witchrage 80+

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Nekkma
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#63 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:21 pm

This topic is clearly about solo heroes whining about playing the ultimate group class with solo play as its weakness. Kotbs is one of the best tanks in the game and should clearly not be given damage as well as all utility. If you want more damage then name what utility you will drop.
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#64 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:46 pm

Nekkma wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:21 pm If you want more damage then name what utility you will drop.
You say, more damage has to cause a loss of utility and i'd think vice versa, right?

Why does this argument always come up on kotbs? and not at the other 10 classes which got more utility or damage and didnt loose anything? :lol:

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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#65 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:13 pm

Blacksuperman wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:46 pm
Nekkma wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:21 pm If you want more damage then name what utility you will drop.
You say, more damage has to cause a loss of utility and i'd think vice versa, right?

Why does this argument always come up on kotbs? and not at the other 10 classes which got more utility or damage and didnt loose anything? :lol:
Because classes are not equal and knight has been the alpha tank since forever. "Buffing" a shitty class does not require a zero sum approach. "Buffing" a great class do. In fact, nerfing the best classes from live have been one of this servers best changes.
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tazdingo
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#66 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:54 pm

ppl rolling a utility bot and being sad they end up with a utility bot... big dumb. some of us like MTing. go roll literally anything else, knight is the thinking mans tank and not every class needs a solo spec

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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#67 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:18 pm

tazdingo wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:54 pm ppl rolling a utility bot and being sad they end up with a utility bot... big dumb. some of us like MTing. go roll literally anything else, knight is the thinking mans tank and not every class needs a solo spec

But every class should able to do direct damage, even a tanks and does not matter how good group utilities it has , because this is the idea of the game developers !
After nerf of Runefang and Mighty soul, Kotbs has no more damage at all, only damaging auras !
As i wrote before, if old Knight players not playing more, so it says that is something wrong with the class ! Also order has problems with tanks, sometimes big.

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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#68 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:28 pm

Nekkma wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:13 pm
Blacksuperman wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:46 pm
Nekkma wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:21 pm If you want more damage then name what utility you will drop.
You say, more damage has to cause a loss of utility and i'd think vice versa, right?

Why does this argument always come up on kotbs? and not at the other 10 classes which got more utility or damage and didnt loose anything? :lol:
Because classes are not equal and knight has been the alpha tank since forever. "Buffing" a shitty class does not require a zero sum approach. "Buffing" a great class do. In fact, nerfing the best classes from live have been one of this servers best changes.
"Alpha" tank now is IB and i see you did not play for the Kotbs after nerf at all...
Great class here is Borc, Chosen then Bg/IB. SM does more dmagae but he is weaker and Kotbs almost somewhere in the ass now. Even good WE able to kill SnB Kotbs now and 2H Knight is easy frag to her, but Knight is anticlass for WE!

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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#69 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:17 pm

BO great class? Kotbs terrible class? Not having a st punt automatically puts BO in the bottom. Not beeing able to create separation between enemy tank and dps make BO/SM a secondary tank by default. You cannot kill good opposition without having a way to negate guard. It seems the tank archetype is not for you if you value damage as the most important aspect of a tank. Kotbs have pretty much everything you want besides damage. A BO focused on damage have very little utility.

I'm not even saying not to increase damage / solo play but if you do you must structure it so that the kotbs cannot retain its utility while doing damage.
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#70 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:28 pm

Battlefield wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:18 pm But every class should able to do direct damage

disagree entirely. properly support, cc for and guard the slayer, you just quintupled his dmg output. enabled dmg > direct dmg for a tank

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