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Re: Drops worse than ever?

Post#61 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:13 pm

I still think pve drops should be in pve. rvr currency drops in rvr. sc currency for winning scs.
Whatever floats your boat but you need to rvr and sc to get the best gear and weapons and no bloody rng in pvp. 1 kill 1 crest with a cd like on live to stop farming.
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Re: Drops worse than ever?

Post#62 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:34 pm

Like I written in general forum. Moving purple/woe drops from PvE to PvP without increasing drop chance above 1-2% is just a bad idea.
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Re: Drops worse than ever?

Post#63 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:12 pm

Drop chance is fixed in PvP now, at 5% in SCs and 14% in RvR. The controls for farming are no longer modifiers to the drop rate.

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Re: Drops worse than ever?

Post#64 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:18 pm

Drops are definitely better now, easier to get green gear. Rares are still really rare, and purples are a myth :^).

Would be cool if the higher your RR the higher chance of when you do drop something it is blue or purple (but only in sc's or when killed by a WB). I kinda like the whole aspect of wanting to kill higher RR players on live for better insigs/drops. And the feeling of wanting to play more safe when you were higher rr.
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Re: Drops worse than ever?

Post#65 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:25 pm

xyeppp wrote:
paps wrote: Yea sure :D is ok, i "didnt" farm so i dont know :D
Yea sure :D Destro dupes :D OMG :D

Bro, I spent there 24/7 from the wipe and so did Khoorn. He didn't drop all those purples - you gotta be silly to think so.

And if by you farmed mean that you solo farmed 1 mob by 1 for an hour then I don't blame you. You guys had no gors, coulnd't pull 40 mobs at 1 take and have them respawn 20 seconds later. Realize that some people really spent 10 hours a day just farming - every single day without stepping into the RvR lake.
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Re: Drops worse than ever?

Post#66 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:30 pm

Jaycub wrote:Drops are definitely better now, easier to get green gear. Rares are still really rare, and purples are a myth :^).

Would be cool if the higher your RR the higher chance of when you do drop something it is blue or purple (but only in sc's or when killed by a WB). I kinda like the whole aspect of wanting to kill higher RR players on live for better insigs/drops. And the feeling of wanting to play more safe when you were higher rr.

quite exploitable... you kill your 21 buddy with your 10 twink and get purple every time, then vice versa.
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Re: Drops worse than ever?

Post#67 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:40 pm

Tiggo wrote:
Jaycub wrote:Drops are definitely better now, easier to get green gear. Rares are still really rare, and purples are a myth :^).

Would be cool if the higher your RR the higher chance of when you do drop something it is blue or purple (but only in sc's or when killed by a WB). I kinda like the whole aspect of wanting to kill higher RR players on live for better insigs/drops. And the feeling of wanting to play more safe when you were higher rr.

quite exploitable... you kill your 21 buddy with your 10 twink and get purple every time, then vice versa.
>only in sc's or when killed by a wb

Something still has to be done about blue/purple drops I think. I haven't seen a single blue or purple pistol/sword on the order AH, and I check it multiple times a day for a week now. Not even one up for some redic price... I don't think there are any out there honestly. And same can be said for axes for my mara on destro, even if I had 2k gold I can't buy and upgrades because there is just no blue/purp gear at all on the market. Meanwhile destro side the people who holocausted the gorrs are sitting on really nice weapons that are for all practical purposes now unobtainable.
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Re: Drops worse than ever?

Post#68 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:44 pm

Blue drops are 20 times as rare as green ones, and purple drops are 20 times rarer than that. Feel free to give opinions on this.

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Re: Drops worse than ever?

Post#69 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:55 pm

As soon as I see one I will have an opinion :)

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Re: Drops worse than ever?

Post#70 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:22 am

Azarael wrote:Blue drops are 20 times as rare as green ones, and purple drops are 20 times rarer than that. Feel free to give opinions on this.
I'm bad at math but I will try anyways, going to assume that a "drop" is something that every can roll on and every will roll need. Which is probably going to be close to reality, there are going to be cases were something drops and you are the only one who can need on it but i think that is a double edged sword.

SC's you have 12 people rolling on gear, 5% chance to drop that means every 20 kills something will drop and then you have a 1 in 12 chance to get that drop

On average you will have to be a part of 240 kills to get an item, the amount of kills you have to be a part of on average to receive a blue item would be 4800 (1 out of 20 times you get an item it will be blue instead of green), and a purple item 96,000 (one out of 400 you get an item it will be purple)

Your chance would be ~33%? higher in a warband of 24 people than in a SC w/ 12. Although the frequency of kills is probably much higher in SC.


The patch has only been out what a day? maybe two now IDK. I think all you would have to do is check out the AH data after a week or so and examine the market data for Woe/murderers and runescribed/slaughters.

According to your numbers every 400 kills in a SC should yield 1 new blue item to the market, and every 8000 kills a new purple. In ORvR you would produce a blue every ~150 kills and a purple every ~2800.Is there even anywhere close to 8000 SC kills or 2800 ORvR kills in a single day?

Seems really low to me, and I have a feeling even after a week or even 2 there is a good chance that not a single new purple weapon for a specific class(es) will be added to the server.

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