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Re: Gold reset
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:31 pm
by OldPlayer
As long as there are rare luxury items based on luck and alarm clocks (Lair bosses), low drop rates (0,01 % were not based on 100 players online, but on 10 000 players online), any kind of wipe will not solve anything.
Intentionally avoiding exploits/bugs that will happen anyway...
1) People with lots of time or using brains will always get more money than Donald Hero who plays 1 hour a week.
2) People from point 1 will always use their time/brains advantage and will be more powerful than Donald Hero.
3) Donald Hero will probably be unhappy and demand yet another wipe as evil exploiters, hackers and greedy capitalist swines are ruining the game for him and his friends. Some Donalds suspect they are majority, they may be right.
Simplest solution:
1) Change item drops to 100x current amount. Done under 2 hours max.
2) Make best items available only through PvP/RvR.
What to expect:
The next whine will be "I cannot play more than X hours a month, how can I compete with people in full Devastator set??? WE NEED WIPE/FREEBIES!"
Re: Gold reset
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:55 pm
by Bozzax
Drop rates isn't the problem at since all rare items instantly becomes trash when T2 gear is there. This don't mean drop rates are "as they should be" just means they are equal for all playing.
The "elephant in the room" is the 1000s of gold that has been duped since gold maintain value over tiers. Going into T2-T4 with gold "as is" will let these exploiters buy out the best stuff. Now we talk about fragments, seeds, potions etc and for a very long time. This in turn gives an advantage in T2-T4 which will be much worse then Gale + vendor items compared to rare items
Play times has 0 to do with this as you can "create" 1000s gold in a few hours. Grinding that legit would take years even for Peter Pro
Re: Gold reset
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:25 pm
by Lheana
Dalsie wrote:-Auction house should be removed.
-All forms of trade should be removed.
You want 80% players in RoR to leave ? :O No trade, it would mean you can not give items for free to your guildmates, you can not drop items for your reroll ? You just can hope to drop the good item when drop rate are 0.01% and if you drop something for one of your toons or for a guildmate you just can say "sorry, I will delete this good item I farmed for hours cause I was not on the good char" ...
Imo this idea is one of the worst.
Re: Gold reset
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:31 pm
by Stinkyweed
- Crowd: A gold duper! A duper! A duper! We found a duper! We've got a duper ! A duper! A duper ! We have found a duper . May we burn her?
- How do you know she is a duper
- She looks like one.
- Bring her forward.
- I'm not a duper ! I'm not a duper !
- But you are dressed as one.
- They dressed me like this. - No, we didn't.
- And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
- Well? - We did do the nose.
- The nose? - And the hat. But she is a duper !
- Did you dress her up like this? - No, no!
- Yes. A bit.
- She has got a wart.
- What makes you think she's a duper ?
- She turned me into a newt!
- A newt?
- I got better.
- Burn her anyway!
- Quiet! Quiet!
- There are ways of telling whether she is a duper .
- Are there? What are they? Tell us. - Do they hurt?
- Tell me, what do you do with dupers ?
- Burn them!
- And what do you burn, apart from dupers ?
- More dupers ! - Wood!
- So why do duper burn?
- 'Cause they're made of wood? - Good!
- How do we tell if she is made of wood? - Build a bridge out of her.
- But can you not also make bridges out of stone?
- Oh, yeah.
- Does wood sink in water?
- No, it floats. - Throw her into the pond!
- What also floats in water?
- Bread. - Apples.
- Very small rocks. - Cider! Great gravy.
- Cherries. Mud. - Churches.
- Lead. - A duck!
- Exactly.
- So, logically--
- If she weighs the same as a duck...
- she's made of wood.
- And therefore?
- A duper !
- A duck! A duck! - Here's a duck.
- We shaIl use my largest scales.
- Burn the duper !
- Remove the supports!
- A duper !
- It's a fair cop.
- Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?
- I am Arthur, king of the Britons.
Re: Gold reset
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:43 pm
by naxaH4er
do you read my mind?
Re: Gold reset
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:03 pm
by OldPlayer
Bozzax wrote:
Play times has 0 to do with this as you can "create" 1000s gold in a few hours. Grinding that legit would take years even for Peter Pro
One rare Bandit Queen helm, let's say Engineer one = thousands of gold in your pocket in under 5 minutes of work. Please send me 10 % of your income as payment for the Ultimate RoR Gold Guide.
Re: Gold reset
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:10 pm
by Bozzax
OldPlayer wrote:Bozzax wrote:
Play times has 0 to do with this as you can "create" 1000s gold in a few hours. Grinding that legit would take years even for Peter Pro
One rare Bandit Queen helm, let's say Engineer one = thousands of gold in your pocket in under 5 minutes of work. Please send me 10 % of your income as payment for the Ultimate RoR Gold Guide.
Well it is then bought with cheaters gold more or less my point
Re: Gold reset
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:14 pm
by OldPlayer
Bozzax wrote:
Well it is then bought with cheaters gold more or less my point
Simple grind math.
Peter Pro is an average player, killing 3 mobs a minute, making about 4 silver in drops (2,7 for 3 kills and 1,3 in grey/green loot he sells). Let's say he is able to play 50 minutes an hour, so he makes 2 gold in 1 hour.
In 8 hours of playing in Mom's basement he makes 16 golds a day.
After playing for 2 weeks he has 224 gold.
There are hundreds Peter Pros playing this game. And all of them (gasp) do... farm... non-stop... every... day.
Re: Gold reset
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:15 pm
by Bozzax
That makes it even more obvious
Re: Gold reset
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:18 pm
by OldPlayer
Bozzax wrote:That makes it even more obvious
I'm glad you admit that there is an endless influx of gold ingame, inflation is unavoidable and that only people who intentionally do not farm mobs for loot aren't bathing in money like Scrugge McDuck.
