Return of Reckoning

Hargrim wrote:

Theseus wrote:

Hargrim wrote:I've read about that play experience above - log for 15 minites and quit. Fun.

And transparency would for sure reduce the number of attempts to play the system. Obviously.

Your sarcasm might be correct, but it is beside the point.

It still is pretty simple. If a system can be played, it will be played. If you reveal the system or not, is not really important. If you dont, people will figur out what is working by trial and error. I know even some people who only play games to find out how to play the system, to publish it and quit the game afterwards. That how it has been and it always will be. To expect the players not to do that is nothing but idealistic. You onl will get more frustrated because it will happen no matter what you try.

I have no issue with people guessing, correctly or not, how system works. I have issue with people who don't want to play it the way it should be. This just add work for me, but that's it. Unwanted behaviors can be eradicated .

Hargrim wrote:What loophole do we have with removal of all contribution when you change characters now?

Fallenkezef wrote:

Hargrim wrote:

Theseus wrote: Your sarcasm might be correct, but it is beside the point.

It still is pretty simple. If a system can be played, it will be played. If you reveal the system or not, is not really important. If you dont, people will figur out what is working by trial and error. I know even some people who only play games to find out how to play the system, to publish it and quit the game afterwards. That how it has been and it always will be. To expect the players not to do that is nothing but idealistic. You onl will get more frustrated because it will happen no matter what you try.

I have no issue with people guessing, correctly or not, how system works. I have issue with people who don't want to play it the way it should be. This just add work for me, but that's it. Unwanted behaviors can be eradicated .

Have you considered telling people how you think people are supposed to play? Saves all the guessing.

Theseus wrote:

Hargrim wrote:What loophole do we have with removal of all contribution when you change characters now?

Dont know, but I am sure we will find out.^^

Hargrim wrote:What loophole do we have with removal of all contribution when you change characters now?

Shooshpanzerer wrote:

Hargrim wrote:What loophole do we have with removal of all contribution when you change characters now?

It has an unpleasant consequence of discouraging xrealming to help the underdog side, but it's a minor issue.

Loophole most of us are referring too is caused by 2 things:
1) Overdog/underdog penalty/bonus, which, judging from experience, effectively nullifies contribution.
2)Unaviability of Genesis/Subjigator gear by any other means. Mostly Genesis.

Hargrim wrote:Those are potential issues. Loophole is something different.

Fallenkezef wrote:

lefze wrote:

Fallenkezef wrote:
Most other mmos have a similar system. Hardcore players get gear quickly, casuals get it eventualy.

You do realize that would mean full BiS gear for any good player in two days or so? You would litterally have to remove the whole bag system.

Would you like a hat and carrot for your strawman?

We are discussing options. Obviously the curreny system is not compatible with scaled loot according to commitment.

However there is no way of predicting how things evolve. Devs could end up scrapping current system entirely for summat else down the line

Shooshpanzerer wrote:

Hargrim wrote:Those are potential issues. Loophole is something different.

If i understand you correctly, the main issue is - if your side is the underdog, the most reasonable course of actions in terms of loot is to abandon zone and let the enemy lock it, because underdog bonus >>>>> contribution.