Re: Disrupt vs magical class, nerf/boost classes or rework disrupt in general?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:15 pm
by GodlessCrom
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Also gonna point out that while Volgo may kill sorcs 1v1, game isnt balanced on 1v1 (OR IS IT) and I have seen Volgo die to panicked destro firing squads before. They may toss him a sacrifical choppa or three first though.
Tbf, BG does not have Avalanche tactic: their mirror gives AP, not health regen. Avalanche is huge boon to survivability for IB against sorc and magus.
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Re: Disrupt vs magical class, nerf/boost classes or rework disrupt in general?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:15 pm
by dansari
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Atropik wrote:
dansari wrote:
As if the same isn't the case for BW? BG has just as potent a willpower buff and disrupts a BW just as much. Just because you can land fireballs doesn't mean that target is going to die.
You can land 2 undefitable fireballs in one second every 6? seconds, that fkn means, trust me
Against a BG, where your fireballs are hitting for 700? OK...
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Re: Disrupt vs magical class, nerf/boost classes or rework disrupt in general?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:26 pm
by Atropik
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dansari wrote:
Against a BG, where your fireballs are hitting for 700? OK...
i believe 1400 dmg to def specced BG is far more than 0 to 1-3 specced ib all the time. OK
BW can also slot Close Quaters press FM and inflict pretty **** ton of dmg to almost anyone, but yes Terryfying Foe is still the thing.
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Re: Disrupt vs magical class, nerf/boost classes or rework disrupt in general?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:29 pm
by wargrimnir
Lemme just lock this for a minute so I can remind you folks that this is the balance forum, and we're not going to entertain bickering. Keep it on topic.
Carry on.
Re: Disrupt vs magical class, nerf/boost classes or rework disrupt in general?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:44 pm
by nelsonus
I am all for @wargrimnir's proposal to add strikethrough to willpower and add disrupt avoidance to init.
It's clean, makes sense, and adds additional twists through classes willpower buffs/debuffs.
Re: Disrupt vs magical class, nerf/boost classes or rework disrupt in general?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:45 pm
by oaliaen
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I agree if BW get nerfed as well
Last chance. Follow the BDF rules, or you get removed from it.
Re: Disrupt vs magical class, nerf/boost classes or rework disrupt in general?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:47 pm
by Atropik
wargrimnir wrote: Keep it on topic.
Ok, roll dots avoidance check on tick back, cause only tanks and high renown/geared healers got some worth of that, and they were pretty fat and without it, so now they are just invulnerable for some classes. Thats going to be step one.
And step two, any character with int. BS capped may not have more than 18% dodge/disrupt to be met on single opponent.
So the step 3 is, preventing rdps meta from coming back on table, reimplement RD/CW.
I just solved all troubles you have. In case you dont like to submit all the mistakes youve made, i have the ultimate step 4: mirror the classes, remove pets, lifetaps, and cc effects from rdps classes, cause that stuff cannot be ever properly balanced.
Re: Disrupt vs magical class, nerf/boost classes or rework disrupt in general?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:59 pm
by Telen
Id just cap strikethrough and cap disrupt. So you no longer need all the cheap avoidance to counter casters with hard capped intel. You can have damage but you dont get free strikethrough with it. Again bw/sorc cause all the problems and all other classes get hit trying to fix what has always been the games problem class.
Re: Disrupt vs magical class, nerf/boost classes or rework disrupt in general?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:03 pm
by 7rere7
nelsonus wrote:I am all for @wargrimnir's proposal to add strikethrough to willpower and add disrupt avoidance to init.
It's clean, makes sense, and adds additional twists through classes willpower buffs/debuffs.
AS DO I ........ Wargrims points about covers everything!
Re: Disrupt vs magical class, nerf/boost classes or rework disrupt in general?
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:03 pm
by Penril
Appparently I can't leave for a few hours without you guys going, well, crazy. Guess that was my fault.
Stick to the BDF rules, there will be no second warnings from now on.