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Re: Dont rush T2
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:45 pm
by mistgun
Sulorie wrote:Telen wrote:
It is absolutely not skill. Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better though. In that sc there was tipiz, doomflaya and noother. Decent players that were higher level than me. Difference. I had the best gear and booked at the best level to get bolster advantage. I over doubled the dps/db of noother who was a decent bw. Thats the imbalance the book can keep you at.
Are you serious? What bolster? You are lvl 39, do the math for 1 rank bolster in SC.
Dmg and kills depend on opportunities. WC camping favors rdps. Bad timing or placement leads to worse results.
He hardly did bad because of gear alone. He was just worse than you.
Guess what happens, when there is no xpoff. Lower tiers become ghosttowns and starting a new char becomes an aweful experience. Don't get me wrong, we need no LotD but stop blaming gear, when you should blame players.
Some classes are just great in killing newbies, while it is easy to counter them in a group environment.
IMO they both (gear/skill) hold there own, but I played a lot of wh (I am what you would consider a old school player of wh) and gear seemed to outweigh skills a lot more often. I am personally against xpoff or twinks. And it won't be needed if we get original war when rr80 was max. It would be cool tho if they could implemented some kind of debolster if you go back to the lower tiers once your lv 40, but they would have to figure out how to make it balanced. I know, wishful thinking. =p
Re: Dont rush T2
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:49 pm
by Penril
mistgun wrote:It would be cool tho if they could implemented some kind of debolster if you go back to the lower tiers once your lv 40, but they would have to figure out how to make it balanced. I know, wishful thinking. =p
WAR had this already (Return to Ekrund).
Re: Dont rush T2
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:59 pm
by Sulorie
Penril wrote:mistgun wrote:It would be cool tho if they could implemented some kind of debolster if you go back to the lower tiers once your lv 40, but they would have to figure out how to make it balanced. I know, wishful thinking. =p
WAR had this already (Return to Ekrund).
Yes, but it was done bad. Armor set bonus and proccs were working, same with potions and renown skills.
Re: Dont rush T2
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:18 pm
by Vdova
OldPlayer wrote:I've never enjoyed Tier 1 so much before!
Before tier 2, please:
1) All skills workable.
2) All class mechanics workable.
3) Party and warband fully workable.
4) Guild fully workable.
5) Collision detection.
Without point 5 any kind of keep defense is senseless.
Thank you for your hard work!
I would add:
6) renown points passives/actives workable
7) tactics workable
Re: Dont rush T2
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:44 pm
by Telen
Vdova wrote:
I would add:
6) renown points passives/actives workable
7) tactics workable
Absolutely and Talismans. Being able to spec really brings another layer to war. Some spec just dont work without renown points and talismans.
Re: Dont rush T2
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:12 pm
by Vdova
nalgol wrote:we are getting close on 100% skills and carrer mechanics
unfortenualy at lvl 11 is tactics puke
I hope You got it working on other server than we playing. Class mechanics are far from 100% working. Especialy pet classes and pet pathing is far from working correctly.
Re: Dont rush T2
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:20 pm
by nalgol
pet / npc pathing will not work for a very long time im affrait since the server controls the pet movement it wound need a 3d map of the game to do pathing right
not gonna happen anytime soon maybe even never :-S
Re: Dont rush T2
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:32 pm
by Vdova
nalgol wrote:pet / npc pathing will not work for a very long time im affrait since the server controls the pet movement it wound need a 3d map of the game to do pathing right
not gonna happen anytime soon maybe even never :-S
Does it mean, that pet classes will never work correctly? Even as good as on live servers( whre they were also buggy as hell?)
Because that is big shock for me. It means we can never make the game running...
Re: Dont rush T2
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:38 pm
by Telen
Vdova wrote:
Does it mean, that pet classes will never work correctly? Even as good as on live servers( whre they were also buggy as hell?)
Because that is big shock for me. It means we can never make the game running...
The pets will have used the same navmesh as the npcs. No navmesh no pathing.
I dont know what server side depends on a mesh of the game world, auto attack or aoe splash, some stuff will be very hard to get working. Some game mechanics might need to be altered or removed.
Re: Dont rush T2
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:44 pm
by Azarael
I can't see how AoEs can be implemented correctly without the ability to perform traces serverside for visibility.