Return of Reckoning

Grulo wrote:

Nishka wrote:If collision detection is so 'heavy' and causes lag, it means there will never be cd on the server?

I wonder if there is a way to give CD only to tanks. This would reduce the lag and we would still have tanks blocking doorways.

I remember that some time before shutdown collision was disactivated, but some time before it was activated for all the players not only tanks, anyway it wouldn't be a bad idea for keep or capitals defending and if remember right you couldn't pass throught your allies too

Sulorie wrote:

Grulo wrote:

Nishka wrote:If collision detection is so 'heavy' and causes lag, it means there will never be cd on the server?

I wonder if there is a way to give CD only to tanks. This would reduce the lag and we would still have tanks blocking doorways.

And the own DPS just run through their own tank wall? No!

No. NO ONE would be able to run through a tank (either friend or foe). However, DPS and healers would be able to pass through each other.

This would significantly reduce the CD checks on the server (i think, but i could be completeley wrong too lol).

Grulo wrote:
No. NO ONE would be able to run through a tank (either friend or foe). However, DPS and healers would be able to pass through each other.

This would significantly reduce the CD checks on the server (i think, but i could be completeley wrong too lol).

if is possible i would support this !!

Yes.. Lots to do here is my list top down priority

tactics
renown
morales
crafting
talismans crafted and in gear
potions crafted
Zone rewards and Realm War makes better sense (eg a basic meaning to locking zones between all three pairing in T1)
More scenario active
PQ working
More PvE quests fixed
ToK issues and WAR story better working
Beastiary working better

sigh, this will take a while but I am patient.

Grulo wrote:

Nishka wrote:If collision detection is so 'heavy' and causes lag, it means there will never be cd on the server?

I wonder if there is a way to give CD only to tanks. This would reduce the lag and we would still have tanks blocking doorways.

I'm not sure if it wouldn't make only tanks being able to block other tanks, since if other characters don't calculate collision they would be able to pass chars that do calculate it. At least that's how I see it.

Azagaar wrote:

Grulo wrote:

Nishka wrote:If collision detection is so 'heavy' and causes lag, it means there will never be cd on the server?

I wonder if there is a way to give CD only to tanks. This would reduce the lag and we would still have tanks blocking doorways.

I'm not sure if it wouldn't make only tanks being able to block other tanks, since if other characters don't calculate collision they would be able to pass chars that do calculate it. At least that's how I see it.

Other characters detect collision constantly, otherwise you would be able to go through walls, or never get stuck on terrain. But instead of detecting collision with everyone, it would only be tanks.

Then again, i have no idea what im talking about. And we are talking about that something that will take a long time (or maybe will never be implemented anyway).

No, collision is required to make all melee work.... with 5 feet melee skils,l snare is the only anti kite option, collsion is required to always stay on target ass, if you remove collision ppl will start free trough you and jump here and there flee like idiots monkeys, or you so blind to not see all bw in sc doing it?
The only things that must be touch is collision while enter in the keep door, thesre collision on official servers suck it need to be check better while you go in that spot

Collision detection in WAR was afaik like this:
- CD was generally off by default
- If an enemy enters the sight radius of another player, collision detection is switched on

Afaik PvP-CD was never deactivated on the live server. They deactivated it once on the PTS without telling the players.

I think switching on CD only for tanks would not work, because to hinder other players to walk through the tanks there must be some detection that there is a tank blocking the way (aka collision detection).
Also i think the CD when a player is walking against a fixed object (e.g. wall, tree, ...) is a matter between the server and one client. The player vs player CD is a matter between the server and many clients.

Btw i think the devs will handle this when the time is right, but there is probably much "easier" or more important stuff to code atm.
Even in this early state of the game, there are things that work better than on the mythic server (e.g. shadow warriors can't accidently deactivate their stance when using the same stance twice; when this happened on the mythic server, the sw had almost no skills available for five seconds...).

Fixed groups on top!! GOGOGOGOGO +++!!

Hmmm.. collision detection via GPU. Let those GPU boxes handle your collision detection for high-speed interactivity without bogging things down... I dunno, could work:

Real-time Collision Culling of a Million Bodies on Graphics Processing Units