[SW] Need help soloing

[daniilpb]

If you stack armor and CW chances that you will insta die while kd-ed by WE, nuked by sorc, magus, doks or chosen are growing (everyone with spirit-elemental dmg).
The problem is that you need to rebuild yourself too much for SH while becoming freenown for other destro. SH simply doesn't need such sacrifices. Even if he will go full armor and etc he will have only WH as a problem

[Vandoles]

That's basically it, I need to rebuild myself so much and I'm fairly sure the tryhard herders will still get me 90% of the time. Not worth it, really, considering I'll die to every WE ever.

[Elftwin95]

I would say the Devs need to do some sort of changes to the SW, I feel the same was as Vandoles.

[Vandoles]

They've said they have no idea what to do with assault. There's another big problem elftwin, that if they buff assault and then release conqueror and invader, assault will end up being overpowered.

[lastalien]

They've said they have no idea what to do with assault. There's another big problem elftwin, that if they buff assault and then release conqueror and invader, assault will end up being overpowered.

As I recall, Aza was going to include SW in the experimental phase. Where you could see that the developers do not know what to make?

Proposal for changes SW
viewtopic.php?f=97&t=18263

[Vandoles]

Aza was online a few days ago, he was patching and talking on advice.I very politely asked him about it, because I saw about 3-4 proposals for SW changes binned because someone else said balance changes are coming.

He said something along the lines the devs have no idea what to do with assault SWs right now.

What I gathered, to be honest, is that they've talked about it, but there's no conclusion or any clear path and we're not close to getting an .ex.

Thing is, we gotta recognize assault balance is very problematic because the imbalance comes mainly from itemizing. Assault has very gimped stat distribution and anni doesn't have enough stat levels to balance things out. When you reach invader or even cnqueror, things change drastically. So if you balance things out now why wouldn't assault SWs become OP with gear changes? Also how do you balance the assault SW to bring it in line with skirmrish SWs, but not over other mdps? What assault SWs need are distance closers and survivability under fire, but if you get that, technically an assault SW can just wait for his m2 and use that moment to get in and destroy everything.

[sotora]

Nothing you can do. SW sux in soloplaying at this stage of the game.
If you are a fearless one you can try to take 3rd cleansing wind and resoult with your renown point. Will help with squigs disarms and dots and WE knockdowns.
Then change your tree spec: use 3+1 with range buff tactic for 3rd tree skills and glass arrow from 1st tree also can help with squigs

Ok, I'm getting the idea that trying to even take squigs is a lost cause.

So what about WEs? What if I stack armor/toughness, to try and survive the KD?

I've survived before, when they get unlucky with crits, but then I have the very big problem that I KD them, whirling pin away...but they just pop fleet footed, catch up to me and I'm **** again.

Not much you can do. Same as not much WE can do if you as SW spot unstealthed WE. WE opens on you you most lilkely die, you meet unstalthed WE, you most likely kill it.

Soloing on any class is discouraged through the system changes. You do not have and most likely we will not get, liniments and crit tallies that in your case would up your BAL and CRIT for faster kills, and the 3pot heal and Absorb pots to survive long enough to kill while solo.

The best you can do IMO on an SW is get real quick at switching stances in the middle of a fight. Start with the range boost in Scout and use the armor debuff, switch to skirmish for kiting and the KD and if they get in close switch to assault for the mdps boost.
As for Squig Herders ... unless you take them completely by surprise and dot them up good, you will lose. Their pets can follow and kill you while they run away. Also they do not have to switch stances and all their big dots can be fired on the move.

It might be discouraged, but no amount of discouragement will stop ppl from soloing, discouraging it more is more likely to push ppl from game rather than make people to go group only.

[Vandoles]

Spoiler:

Nothing you can do. SW sux in soloplaying at this stage of the game.
If you are a fearless one you can try to take 3rd cleansing wind and resoult with your renown point. Will help with squigs disarms and dots and WE knockdowns.
Then change your tree spec: use 3+1 with range buff tactic for 3rd tree skills and glass arrow from 1st tree also can help with squigs

Ok, I'm getting the idea that trying to even take squigs is a lost cause.

So what about WEs? What if I stack armor/toughness, to try and survive the KD?

I've survived before, when they get unlucky with crits, but then I have the very big problem that I KD them, whirling pin away...but they just pop fleet footed, catch up to me and I'm **** again.

Not much you can do. Same as not much WE can do if you as SW spot unstealthed WE. WE opens on you you most lilkely die, you meet unstalthed WE, you most likely kill it.

Soloing on any class is discouraged through the system changes. You do not have and most likely we will not get, liniments and crit tallies that in your case would up your BAL and CRIT for faster kills, and the 3pot heal and Absorb pots to survive long enough to kill while solo.

The best you can do IMO on an SW is get real quick at switching stances in the middle of a fight. Start with the range boost in Scout and use the armor debuff, switch to skirmish for kiting and the KD and if they get in close switch to assault for the mdps boost.
As for Squig Herders ... unless you take them completely by surprise and dot them up good, you will lose. Their pets can follow and kill you while they run away. Also they do not have to switch stances and all their big dots can be fired on the move.

It might be discouraged, but no amount of discouragement will stop ppl from soloing, discouraging it more is more likely to push ppl from game rather than make people to go group only.

There's a little bit of a problem with your first point in that a WE that gets picked out of stealth can usually run away through fleet footed (the escape thingy) and flee, restealth and try again as many times as she chooses, considering SWs have no speed bonus or heavy chase unless they burst the WE through the ranged KD properly.

I mean, it's not to make any point, just to clarify something and why I said the whirling pin being able to take WEs out of stealth thing.

[Elftwin95]

Well, I thank you all for the info, thought I must confess I was hoping for more changes to the SW then a tree and fester bombing change...Oh well. I will keep filling my foes with arrows from my invisible quiver then. ;3

[Vandoles]

I don't speak for hte devs or anything, I'm just saying what I saw and was told idk what they'll do and for all we know, they might have come to decisions already.

Anyway, I'm personally pretty happy in general with my SW, especially now that a lot of SH griefers have been discouraged after pet changes roaming around and rvr is pretty fun. I wish I didn't have to play as skirmrish even when specced deep assault (it's just basically playing as skirmrish and then a few seconds of assault when your m2 is up), but hopefully we'll get better gear soon and that'll disappear.