Only no point in SC weapons if you can afford the 35 weapons(or get lucky). And even then, for WP the 35 weapons suck. Possible for knight, and my Wh is waiting ever so patiently for a pair that I can afford. And I have seen a good few of the 35 weapons that just plain suck compared. yea, higher DPS and some have higher stats, but no tali's precludes all of them from being flat out better than SC weapons.
Also, 240 for top SC weapon that has a few DPS less and I think like 4 total stat points difference from the SC weapon that costs 170... But getting 6 emblems per win means you get that gear really fast comparatively to medallions...
Regardless, still FAR better than farming a 1/1000 drop...
How does people who do SC's get medallions again?
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- Genisaurus
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Re: How does people who do SC's get medallions again?
I think part of the problem is not a difference in expectations regarding the pricing, it's a difference in expectation on how long someone should have a character in each tier. In other words, if it takes 6 hours to level out of T2, and when you leave you only have 70 emblems, and no scenario weapons/gear, is the problem that the weapons/sets are too expensive, or is the problem that you got out of T2 in only 6 hours?bloodi wrote:...
When you approach it like this, I can say we have never really looked at the question of how much time/effort it should take to level out of any given tier. We don't have a roadmap. It's a question we keep hand-waving an answer to until we're at a place where the game feels comfortable, whenever that might be. If it were up to me, I would say get content done first, then get some guidelines laid down regarding Time-to-Level, then wipe every character and start collecting some data. But once people get used to a certain pace of advancement, they don't want to go slower.
But like I said, when you look at it as a question of how much time you should be spending in a given tier - how many scenarios you can run, how many keeps you can take, etc. - we don't have an answer. When it comes to influence requirements/emblem or medallion costs, we're just copying numbers those from live, but our rewards are vastly different. It'll get rebalanced at some point in the future, but the community being how it is, we couldn't balance the progression rates downward without throwing out some kind of consolation prize.
Re: How does people who do SC's get medallions again?
Shouldn't it be FAR easier to attain all of the lower tiered gears now that the lvl brackets have been shifted though?
How is this still an issue for anyone not powerleveling at low tiers?
And in t3... That is current endgame. End game should take awhile.
How is this still an issue for anyone not powerleveling at low tiers?
And in t3... That is current endgame. End game should take awhile.
- Genisaurus
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Re: How does people who do SC's get medallions again?
The bracket shift is only temporary until we have enough of T4 done to release it.Dabbart wrote:Shouldn't it be FAR easier to attain all of the lower tiered gears now that the lvl brackets have been shifted though?
How is this still an issue for anyone not powerleveling at low tiers?
And in t3... That is current endgame. End game should take awhile.
- TenTonHammer
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Re: How does people who do SC's get medallions again?
im gonna put this in terms of what ive seenLualyrr wrote: And cant complete the epic weapon quest chains atm (as destro at least) coz of bugged not respawning champion in Saphery and another bugged one for Talabec chain.
Blue lvl 35 weapons
have 47 dps, 40 something str, +2% parry
the 2 blue epic weapons i have that i chose have
44 dps 30str 13 wounds/iniative 13 ws
but both have a tac slot
but i do a high parry stack build on my choppa so i would love 4% more parry but i could go either way

Re: How does people who do SC's get medallions again?
Calm down my fellows.
It's entirely possible I'm missing something here, but Medallions are not the only gear path. Emblems are easy as **** to farm and I experience agreeable SC queue times during all hours of play. I'm Aussie but my sleep schedule is all over the place. Regardless, I've been online queuing for scenarios when the server only has ~250-300 people online and still had queue times that were only a bit longer than normal.
Juggling time zones can be a pain in the ass, I know. But getting salty about there being less NA players and vomming on the forums will help nothing and no one. Get some friends in to the game, spread the word. **** won't happen just because you want it to.
It's entirely possible I'm missing something here, but Medallions are not the only gear path. Emblems are easy as **** to farm and I experience agreeable SC queue times during all hours of play. I'm Aussie but my sleep schedule is all over the place. Regardless, I've been online queuing for scenarios when the server only has ~250-300 people online and still had queue times that were only a bit longer than normal.
Juggling time zones can be a pain in the ass, I know. But getting salty about there being less NA players and vomming on the forums will help nothing and no one. Get some friends in to the game, spread the word. **** won't happen just because you want it to.
- GodlessCrom
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Re: How does people who do SC's get medallions again?
Part of the problem isn't that Emblems are hard to farm, cuz they aren't, but rather the Emblem and Medallion gear are itemized differently. F'rex, I play Chosen and the Medallion set is clearly more itemized for Sword/Shield spec, whereas the Emblem set is clearly more itemized for 2her spec. Which is good for me, cuz I play 2h Chosen (I'm a horrible person, really), and so I already have two pieces and am near a third, and I just hit t3 half a week ago. Meanwhile, I have enough medallions for only 1 piece of Devastator, and that's only from converting the massive stack of t2 Medallions I had, +2 kill quest turn-ins.MrESkull wrote:Calm down my fellows.
It's entirely possible I'm missing something here, but Medallions are not the only gear path. Emblems are easy as **** to farm and I experience agreeable SC queue times during all hours of play. I'm Aussie but my sleep schedule is all over the place. Regardless, I've been online queuing for scenarios when the server only has ~250-300 people online and still had queue times that were only a bit longer than normal.
Juggling time zones can be a pain in the ass, I know. But getting salty about there being less NA players and vomming on the forums will help nothing and no one. Get some friends in to the game, spread the word. **** won't happen just because you want it to.
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Re: How does people who do SC's get medallions again?
this pretty much... for certain classes like tanks, and even moreso healers there isnt that many option since gear is split. emblems are easy, but they give dps healer gear. for me its fine but for regular healers its a pain. would pick devastator over duelist any day on my sw as well, i really dont care for that 2 piece toughness bonusGodlessCrom wrote:Part of the problem isn't that Emblems are hard to farm, cuz they aren't, but rather the Emblem and Medallion gear are itemized differently. F'rex, I play Chosen and the Medallion set is clearly more itemized for Sword/Shield spec, whereas the Emblem set is clearly more itemized for 2her spec. Which is good for me, cuz I play 2h Chosen (I'm a horrible person, really), and so I already have two pieces and am near a third, and I just hit t3 half a week ago. Meanwhile, I have enough medallions for only 1 piece of Devastator, and that's only from converting the massive stack of t2 Medallions I had, +2 kill quest turn-ins.MrESkull wrote:Calm down my fellows.
It's entirely possible I'm missing something here, but Medallions are not the only gear path. Emblems are easy as **** to farm and I experience agreeable SC queue times during all hours of play. I'm Aussie but my sleep schedule is all over the place. Regardless, I've been online queuing for scenarios when the server only has ~250-300 people online and still had queue times that were only a bit longer than normal.
Juggling time zones can be a pain in the ass, I know. But getting salty about there being less NA players and vomming on the forums will help nothing and no one. Get some friends in to the game, spread the word. **** won't happen just because you want it to.
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Re: How does people who do SC's get medallions again?
Emblems? Medallions? It doesn't matter. Everything is overshadowed by Boundless gear now. Level 35 purple (53 dps) VS level 29 blue (40 dps). There's no comparison. That's a 32,5% damage increase from the dps alone (not even including the extra stats from the higher level item + quality).GodlessCrom wrote:Part of the problem isn't that Emblems are hard to farm, cuz they aren't, but rather the Emblem and Medallion gear are itemized differently. F'rex, I play Chosen and the Medallion set is clearly more itemized for Sword/Shield spec, whereas the Emblem set is clearly more itemized for 2her spec. Which is good for me, cuz I play 2h Chosen (I'm a horrible person, really), and so I already have two pieces and am near a third, and I just hit t3 half a week ago. Meanwhile, I have enough medallions for only 1 piece of Devastator, and that's only from converting the massive stack of t2 Medallions I had, +2 kill quest turn-ins.
I think the biggest problem is that the new items were implemented without much thought. Worst part is, that the Boundless items is just one of many problems introduced with the new patch and level cap (35). Even the pvp vendors who sell greens in each tier doesn't sell the right gear anymore: Tier 1 is all the way up to level 13, but vendors only sell level 7 and 8 gear (Level 10 gear, if you include the SC stuff). It's even worse in Tier 2, with level 26 being the highest level, and gear not being higher than 21. That's 5 levels without a gear upgrade.
I know you can go to Altdrop/IC and buy it, but again, doesn't seem to be thought well through. Why doesn't the vendors just sell the gear appropriate for the level range of that tier?
This is without even mentioning the other problems, such as the improbability of taking keeps that are defended by organized wbs because of the high dmg, the extreme low drop chances of said Boundless items in PvP (but very high drop chance in PvE), and the new bolstering system, bolstering low-levels above the current level cap (Why was this even changed?).
I don't mean to go off-topic, but it seems this patch has messed up quite a lot. The SC weapons is the least of your worries, if you ask me.
- TenTonHammer
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Re: How does people who do SC's get medallions again?
Ummmm.... No
The only thing that's good about the new gear is the weapons and the jewels cause they have tac slots?
Hell the blue 35 cloaks are better than the purples
The BiS armor is still deva/duel/stalk/some inf gear
Because of set bonuses and tac slots
The only thing that's good about the new gear is the weapons and the jewels cause they have tac slots?
Hell the blue 35 cloaks are better than the purples
The BiS armor is still deva/duel/stalk/some inf gear
Because of set bonuses and tac slots

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