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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#61 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:36 am

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Luranni wrote:Side note: not sure why other class abilities were nerfed to worst live version, Pounce surely should be the same, not a random exception.
Im sure we will get right to nerfing a class that was never, ever considered OP in tier 4 because its class defining ability, one that has to be invested in with mastery points, annoys people......Its probably right behind nerfing chosens/kotbs and maras, a class that literally has it all to the point where they are turning their nose up at 5 piece armour set procs that other classes would kill for....

Facetiousness aside, pounce is responsible for more WL deaths than anything else in game....
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Granted, I've seen some amazing plays with Pounce. But I've seen a lot more White Lions dive-bombing targets and being obliterated without doing reasonable damage, even before healing is considered. White Lion's did not do well in T4 - Point, Mythic's asinine balance decisions did them no favours - I don't expect them to need their most unique ability to be nerfed into the dirt like some want it to be.

Most of the cries for nerfs I see seem to come from people who got trounced by a pouncing psychotic. Bit of advice - Want to avoid a pounce-related death? Stop overextending. Stick close to your team. If he still dives you, he's either an idiot and you should just blow him up, or there's a play being made and you're probably on the back-step anyway.

Teamwork, people. I don't care what their burst is, no White Lion survives diving into the enemy team on his own. He overextends jumping into your back-line? Well, now he doesn't have guard and is probably out of healer range, too. Smash him.

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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#62 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:39 am

Aceboltz wrote:
Scrilian wrote:
Aceboltz wrote:Mara is a lot harder to play
You wut m8? :shock:
The button smashing part may not be that harder but you have to stance dance , you have quite a lot of abilities to correctly chain but the hard part is about your position, if you don't stick very close to your tanks and are not in the correct place 100% of the time you will get punished so hard as a mara. WL on the other hand can SUPER bunny hop to avoid melees and close gaps and can keep his charge/immune/flee to escape.
Well the retarded kitty management and its abilities is mechanic similar to stance dancing, esp. when you have to keep the bloody thing alive and not dead all the time :D
Would trade the bunnyhop-thingy for those sexy debuffs anyday of the week.
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#63 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:48 am

Scrilian wrote: Would trade the bunnyhop-thingy for those sexy debuffs anyday of the week.
I know you are kind of joking but anyway. Pounce is an amazing class defining ability! Why would anyone give that up? it is the same with Run away and goblins, I would not trade that for any of the other things other healers have!

I find it a bit stupid that it is not core. Pounce is really what defines the WL and it feels odd that it should not be avaliable in all possible specs.
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#64 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:52 am

murmelon wrote:Take off damage from "Pounce" and will be ok
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That will never happen. :lol:
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#65 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:00 am

I agree that wl has a lot of problems. We can start to see them right now in T3; in group play a wl is very often reduced to play the wool ball with his kitty until M1 then kill someone with the tanks. 1 kill every minute, quite bad. But what has pounce to do with this? Absolutely nothing, even a 1Min cd pounce would not change a thing.

However that retarded pounce allows baddies to be much more efficient with their melees than they should be (I know a lot of them pounce dive like kamikazes but eventually it stops when they reach the quite low skillfloor of this game of reroll dps AM) thanks to being almost cc immune and light-fast. Thats my own opinion but I really think no-cd pounce is just a newb-bandaid. Seriously, SH is a great solo class who fears almost no one; but mythics devs managed to make wl even better!! A melee class! That's just crazy how a melee can be better than a ranged for 1v1, think about it.

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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#66 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:04 am

Aceboltz wrote: Seriously, SH is a great solo class who fears almost no one;.
Except WLs, AMs, WHs with great gear, and range knockdowns while they're trying to kite away from a zerg. 8-)
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#67 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:10 am

I agree with AM but WH are really easy to beat if you react fast. In duel or scenarios they are no-match.
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#68 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:12 am

Then yes either pounce need a cooldown, get get its dmg removed or the overall burst of the wl needs to be nerfed its op dmg wise atm. We all remember wl on live before the megabuff you wanna go back to that? Don't think anyone want but you shouldnt be a god class either all i see is one man army wl's pouncing into a wb 1 shotting clothies in real wh or we style.

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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#69 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:20 am

Destro cry!

Сan you do the game together in premaid? For example, I see serious problems in Thinderous Blow at the Marauder is too OP skill to the same low-cost and low CD . But the order do not cry on the forum about his nerf.

This game is not designed for solo play, there is no balance between DD and Healer. DD for the most cases, if he knows his class, kills healer.
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Re: White lion Pounce

Post#70 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:22 am

Nekkma wrote:You can see why I would think so.
Yup, and never said I didn't see it, either :)

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