Return of Reckoning

TenTonHammer wrote:and?

you said it your self, you use it once you get foucsed, for survivability

its hardly something you run around fighting in

maltesa wrote:healdebuff on mara op enough don't need monstro to survive slayer

requires a tactic slot, average leech heal amount is 75-100

wont keep you alive alone if you get focused

It is sth op mara has and sth that was not mirrored onto order.
But nobody cares only destru whines, every day I see new threads to nerf order.

#prayfordestro

Nanji wrote:
It is sth op mara has and sth that was not mirrored onto order.
But nobody cares only destru whines, every day I see new threads to nerf order.

#prayfordestro

An neither is a variety of other things from both sides, perhaps people would prefer chess? I heard that there are exact class mirrors an the balance is amazing

No one is stoping ordo bias whine threads, Mordreed made one about OP sh's recently, perhaps there hould be one about how bg's superpunt doent require a tactic slot

TenTonHammer wrote:

Nanji wrote:
It is sth op mara has and sth that was not mirrored onto order.
But nobody cares only destru whines, every day I see new threads to nerf order.

#prayfordestro

An neither is a variety of other things from both sides, perhaps people would prefer chess? I heard that there are exact class mirrors an the balance is amazing

No one is stoping ordo bias whine threads, Mordreed made one about OP sh's recently, perhaps there hould be one about how bg's superpunt doent require a tactic slot

One thing is certain. We def need more cheese for all the whine.

1. Stop whine threads
2. Wait till t4
3. Test things the right way
4. ???
5. Profit

I wish the forum destro zerg to 'Fix' order classes would translate to more destro in the RVR lakes.

Then again: why chase reknown and gear to get stronger when you can just jump onto the forums to make a REAL contribution by campaigning to make the enemy weaker?

Greatwarden wrote:I wish the forum destro zerg to 'Fix' order classes would translate to more destro in the RVR lakes.

Destro classes are weaker and now you wonder, why noone wanna play weak classes? Seriously?
why not you go and start play destro to see everything by yourself?

DoK vs WP
DoK has better DPS
WP has better survivability/cleansing

WL vs Mara
WL has better burst DPS
Mara has better utility/survivability

WH vs WE
I think WE has better potential frontloaded burst
WH better backloaded (?)

Engi vs Magus
Magus has better DPS normally (armor vs resists, BOC travel time = nicer burst)
Engi has better DPS IF M2
Engi has better utility/survivability

Shaman vs AM
Shaman better survivability
AM better DPS

BW vs Sorc
Sorc has better DPS
BW has better utility

Slayer vs Choppa
Slayer better AOE and much better utility
Choppa better ST DPS

KOTBS vs Chosen
Not sure, I'd say KOTBS better utility and Chosen better DPS

IB vs BG
BG better at killing squishies
IB better with everything else

SM vs BO
Similar classes tbh. BO better potential burst, but ether dance being spiritual dmg can make up for that.

SW vs SH
SH better kiter/survivability
SW better burst
SH better consistent dmg

No, destro classes are not weaker - they just have differences.

Wp don't cleanse better then doks

wouldnt say that choppa has better ST, slayers have rampage which can negate the effectiveness of late game parry and block stacking along with ID and aa haste

choppa has better "spike dmg" from crits i guess due to STG but overall slayers are kinda better than choppas

Better ST against squishies. you would only go for tanks when there is nothing left to target.