Return of Reckoning

Id be ok with a reduction to 2s.
And giving it to SHs... Yeah you can call me anything but at this game Id prefer to see perfect mirrored classes so all the bs of order biased or destro biased could stop and then a true balance discussion could happen!

Problem of balancing is that theres lots of players who only play one side and can only argument in favor of it

Order players continues to justify ranged knockdown on not one, but two classes and WL pounce because of goblin run away. I'd gladly trade run away for removal of those 3 things.

Eye shot is a 3 sec KD ...
Fester Arrow is a 5 sec cast AND on a different stance so add 1 sec for switching stances and moving finger to a diff button ...

this gives you 3 sec to run away, detaunt, and cast a heal on yourself (auto cast -0 sec to cast / 0 AP- if you have been doing dps damage), and take a HoT Pot ....

Amazing, when you look at all the things you can do Eye Shot just does not seem so OP anymore does it?

sw>sh, am> shami, engi> magus, bw > sorc ORDER BIASED NERF PLOX[/quote]
WAT?
From the classes you've listed here, only dps am > dps shami
BW > Sorc?

Nishka wrote: BW > Sorc?

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=bw; ... 0:3539:0:0:

drmordread wrote:Eye shot is a 3 sec KD ...
Fester Arrow is a 5 sec cast AND on a different stance so add 1 sec for switching stances and moving finger to a diff button ...

this gives you 3 sec to run away, detaunt, and cast a heal on yourself (auto cast -0 sec to cast / 0 AP- if you have been doing dps damage), and take a HoT Pot ....

Amazing, when you look at all the things you can do Eye Shot just does not seem so OP anymore does it?

1s for switching stances?

drmordread wrote:Eye shot is a 3 sec KD ...
Fester Arrow is a 5 sec cast AND on a different stance so add 1 sec for switching stances and moving finger to a diff button ...

this gives you 3 sec to run away, detaunt, and cast a heal on yourself (auto cast -0 sec to cast / 0 AP- if you have been doing dps damage), and take a HoT Pot ....

Amazing, when you look at all the things you can do Eye Shot just does not seem so OP anymore does it?

Not quite accurate. Fester is a 3 second cast on a 5 second cooldown. Stance swap does trigger a global cooldown but keep in mind that there is flight time on eyeshot which can negate the time loss on the KD from the global CD.

Comparing abillties with tactics is retarded, you got 3 tactic slot, you have something like 128 abillty slots. Even tho Run Away is a decent tactic it doesn't do anything for your dps and moast SH won't slot it, while a ranged KD is a i WIN button in alot of situations.
If you wanna compare it to anything of the SH class it has to be the ranged disarm, and the KD is by far superior to that one.

One more dubious topic. I know morf u want to run some kind spec for SH/Sham and not to use 1 slot for runway, and spec for it on SH. Why dont u just say it like that

OMG! RANGE 100FT KNOCK! NEFR PLES! ORDER BIASED!
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=bw; ... ;;;0:0:0:0: