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Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:49 pm
by Abolition
xxstealthxx wrote:Has Order stopped spamming Magi movie names in /advice yet? When I logged off last week it was still going strong about eight hours later...
You're going to have to elaborate on that. Give us some examples.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:00 pm
by zanthorn
peterthepan3 wrote:Magus is powerful endgame as a ST assist once you get:
* A spec that has both BOC and IFOC;
* Enough crit;
* A good group to assist with
However, if you don't meet ALL of those criteria, then you will only be effective as an PBAOE Rifter - and you can still be effective at that! Magus PBAOE DD is severely underrated.
Why, may I ask, would you want to be stationary for a 3.0 second cast, and 6.0 second channel ? That just gives your toon a giant beacon of (hey Witch Hunters come rip my ass to shreds).
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:28 pm
by Toldavf
Renork wrote:Sulorie wrote:Toldavf wrote:Magus in t3 actually has amazing damage. The problem is cleanse nerfs it badly.
Amazing numbers on sc scoreboard? AOE stagger breaker spec?
Single target Magus specs focus on direct damage and don't lose much with cleansing.
tehe...amazing damage. This is how you differentiate a good player versus a bad one. A magus can hit over 150k in t2 constantly, that doesn't mean his damage was "amazing". But I'm sure Sulorie and I wouldn't know, we didn't play magi on live nor did we have r100 magi
To the previous poster....I hope you're trolling.
It's my experience from playing against a few good ones in t3 back on live obviously at this point lotd stuff/bolster is in play so there's craziness abound for dps stats.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:49 pm
by Sulorie
You have 2 dots in your rotation, both 100ft and non-aoe. You take the channel cast for its first tick to generate burst along with SVF or to finish targets to gain AP.
Nobody channels for 6 sec. Not on a magus and not on any other class with dd channel casts.
Well, some people indeed channel for 6 sec but those use aoe dots as well. ;^)
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:31 pm
by drmordread
just NERF MAGUS and all is well
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:07 am
by Nishka
Sulorie wrote:You have 2 dots in your rotation, both 100ft and non-aoe. You take the channel cast for its first tick to generate burst along with SVF or to finish targets to gain AP.
Nobody channels for 6 sec. Not on a magus and not on any other class with dd channel casts.
Well, some people indeed channel for 6 sec but those use aoe dots as well. ;^)
6 sec channel, you mean Indigo Fire Of Change? I used to channel for 6 sec

The secret was to apply as much dots as possible on a target and then BOOM - huge burst, many healers weren't even able to react in time
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:30 am
by Renork
Sulorie wrote:You have 2 dots in your rotation, both 100ft and non-aoe. You take the channel cast for its first tick to generate burst along with SVF or to finish targets to gain AP.
Nobody channels for 6 sec. Not on a magus and not on any other class with dd channel casts.
Well, some people indeed channel for 6 sec but those use aoe dots as well. ;^)
Nothing sexier than a BoC + SVF + IFOC crit alllllllll at the same time with withering sooooooul on a target.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:34 pm
by Vdova
True issue is,that play magus needs more time and practice to master it. Most of players will just reroll to Sorc because off easy 4-5 button rotation and bigger numbers

Magus is great to force order healers focus on group heals and let single target dpsers make theyr kills easier. Magus/engie never was alpha dpser and killer. Theyr presence on battlefield was(should be) about change fight in theyr realm favour(aoe rezist debuff for sorces,aoe pull to theyr melee trains,ccs on theyr healers,stagger removal and realm healing/sadly allowed to engineer only/) just support dps class.
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:29 pm
by mursie
Foltestik wrote:magus is to much overpowered and he need to be focused down instantly or he will destroy all
Bingo!
Re: Why the magus hate?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:57 pm
by Nishka
Ok so I've been playing magus today... After almost a year break. t1, 11 level but severly undergeared without any tals. Can't say I've been the first to get focused. In fact, I've played 5 scenes and died 0 times, always in the top-3 of scene damagers. Maybe you get focused because you jump into the middle of an enemy melee train and try to aoe them down?