The Order zerg

[dkabib]

Population was 47% Order: 53% Destro when the Order zerg was rolling yesterday evening.

This shitty % numbers is not showing the population in just T2 some players are doing pve or fight on t1 rvr lake or peeps afk in t1/t2 or peeps on IC/Altdorf stop take this % for an excuse =/ ! It's showing nothing ...

It's a pretty good demonstration of numbers. You can expect a similar amount of players doing everything you mentioned in both sides. It has been like that when Destro or Order dominates.

Blind complains are getting over the top...

[Azuzu]

Could you stop focusing me then? XDD
I did level a BW, but somehow I still like the Eng better, and I don't die sooo easily. I leveled because, well T4 will come someday, and Engs don't stay as good.
At least you're one of the sorcs i'm able to kill sometimes, depends on who's healing you!

I'm super squishie

My Sorc is not built for 1v1 at all, at the moment, so I drop pretty easy. I do enjoy solo roaming, but I'm worried about wasting money building a solo roaming gear set with T3 right around the corner.


I hear you about classes like Engi that are really fun in lower tiers that don't scale well. I think Engi/DPS AM/Shaman/WL/SW/SH/Magus/DPS DoK/DPS WP all suffer from this to some extent, they peak in T2/T3.

Ironically, in my opinion, BW is strongest in T2 as well. AoE is a lot more devastating in T2, especially with the SCs we have to pick from. BW is the king of AoE. I do remember it tapering off significantly by T4. BWs get some of their unique toys a bit earlier then Sorcs as well.

I think Engi gets hit hardest of all tho. Hopefully they will get some loving here on RoR after everything is implemented and balance is addressed.

[Gigawattz01]

Why not just a full character wipe for the whole server? Sure, you'd lose all that stuff you have, but really you gain the stuff quickly and then sorta sit on the character. Plus, to be fair, there were old patches that let some of the characters ride easy victories and such, so a full character wipe isn't entirely uncalled for. It'd be the most fair way to get things back to a base-line and properly test progression at the game's current stage.

Plus, as an alpha, aren't wipes to be expected?

I still don't see why this hasn't been looked at as an option. I don't know about everyone else but this seems the most fair and most logical means of correcting the current issue of a mass "zerg" that won't stop. A lot of Order in these zergs were once Destro who got disenfranchised as some point early on for various reasons that were later addressed or simply because of the recent zerg itself. Putting everyone back to square one would allow those who changed for these reasons to get a fresh start on their Destro and those who wish to stay Order would most likely do so but now with a greater knowledge of what's to come. The biggest thing, however, is seeing how things would pan out when you have everyone level up their new main for the first time but without all the previous exploits to boost their progress. (Some of which later trickled down to their alts even after the exploits were fixed)

[Twyxx]

Wiping toons wouldn't stop people from congregating in large numbers... they'd just do it at square one.

[dkabib]

Could you stop focusing me then? XDD
I did level a BW, but somehow I still like the Eng better, and I don't die sooo easily. I leveled because, well T4 will come someday, and Engs don't stay as good.
At least you're one of the sorcs i'm able to kill sometimes, depends on who's healing you!

I'm super squishie

My Sorc is not built for 1v1 at all, at the moment, so I drop pretty easy. I do enjoy solo roaming, but I'm worried about wasting money building a solo roaming gear set with T3 right around the corner.


I hear you about classes like Engi that are really fun in lower tiers that don't scale well. I think Engi/DPS AM/Shaman/WL/SW/SH/Magus/DPS DoK/DPS WP all suffer from this to some extent, they peak in T2/T3.

Ironically, in my opinion, BW is strongest in T2 as well. AoE is a lot more devastating in T2, especially with the SCs we have to pick from. BW is the king of AoE. I do remember it tapering off significantly by T4. BWs get some of their unique toys a bit earlier then Sorcs as well.

I think Engi gets hit hardest of all tho. Hopefully they will get some loving here on RoR after everything is implemented and balance is addressed.

I don't know what it is, but it seems that my Eng does more dmg than the BW. Crazy huh... Problem with BW is that not only is it extremely squishie (like sorcs), but it's like I have a magnet on me that everyone wants to kill me.

[Azuzu]

I still don't see why this hasn't been looked at as an option. I don't know about everyone else but this seems the most fair and most logical means of correcting the current issue of a mass "zerg" that won't stop. A lot of Order in these zergs were once Destro who got disenfranchised as some point early on for various reasons that were later addressed or simply because of the recent zerg itself. Putting everyone back to square one would allow those who changed for these reasons to get a fresh start on their Destro and those who wish to stay Order would most likely do so but now with a greater knowledge of what's to come. The biggest thing, however, is seeing how things would pan out when you have everyone level up their new main for the first time but without all the previous exploits to boost their progress. (Some of which later trickled down to their alts even after the exploits were fixed)

Your answer to zerging is delete everyone's character.....this hurts my brain.

That makes no sense at all and does nothing to address the issue or reward the side not zerging.

At best all this does is makes people quit to don't want to re-level/gear new characters.

I don't know what it is, but it seems that my Eng does more dmg than the BW. Crazy huh... Problem with BW is that not only is it extremely squishie (like sorcs), but it's like I have a magnet on me that everyone wants to kill me.

As I'm sure you know, Engi's still do great damage in T2. It's when everyone starts getting a lot of Armor with Sov gear and gets to mix defensive/offensive Sov that the physical damage of the Engi falls off.

It's why Magus was always better then Engi endgame, imo. It's the same issues SW and SH suffer from, but at least every M2 they could still moral bomb someone.

[Sulorie]

A stupid whine thread like this one gets so much attention, wow.
Maybe people with serious suggestions should bait others with attention-seeking thread titles.

[turlututuhu]

You are whinning in a "stupid thread" because in 2 hours it have more post than your's in three day

[Hypernia]

Only problem with Order zerg is they get wiped and don't come back. My guild has been discussing running 12man groups or bigger, but there's no point when after we wipe them off 1 keep they either go afk or xrealming.

Not really sure what the complaints are from Destro in EU primetime, Order zerg gets wiped by our bomb groups frequently enough. Premades aren't gonna sit around waiting for the doors to go down though, when we can go roam and fight.

[Sulorie]

You are whinning in a "stupid thread" because in 2 hours it have more post than your's in three day

Yes, one does not simply compete with baddies for attention. Lesson learned.