2X Renown and Crests on Weekends Permanently

[Toshutkidup]

It seems that you cant understand, that this "choice" is not a motivating and rewarding system, and lead people to quit the game. Having fun until 40, fun stops, quit game. Thats what happens, when people realize the eternity of renown and crest grind for gear. But its fine for you, i got it. no more questions. rip

I won't disagree for some players all that is true, just as for me and for some others it isn't true. I'm not saying that system is perfect, it needs fixing but so does player base. If player base won't change, no change that devs do won't matter. But that's always been the case. And just to put an end to this the reality is that no game survives for ever, at some point no matter what this server will also shut down. Nothing is guaranteed or promised.


Some players in the world prefer "harder" pvp games vs "easier" or whatever label anywaine wishes to use. I do view RoR "old" school design and aspects that possibly "older" players prefer vs newer mmo's that utilize PvP as well as main play process.

[Dackjanielz]

lol the players are most definitely NOT the problem, that's like opening a shop and saying its all the customers fault no one is buying your things.

You either adapt to the situation or you perish, if you choose perish then that's down to you.

I personally think that listening to what the majority wants is a very smart thing to do.

[Helwer]

That's how every discussion works here. Players are wrong, players are the problem...

[Toshutkidup]

lol the players are most definitely NOT the problem, that's like opening a shop and saying its all the customers fault no one is buying your things.

You either adapt to the situation or you perish, if you choose perish then that's down to you.

I personally think that listening to what the majority wants is a very smart thing to do.

Then we severely disagree. But that's ok.

[vipevox]

As soon as the developers stop listening to the so-called veterans and go towards the new casual player, the server will begin to replenish with new blood. Otherwise, he will be in sandbox mode for nerds at the moment. A new player does not care about class balance, etc. What is important for them is to immediately enjoy the gameplay, fast progress, ease of obtaining equipment and not feel like a helpless piece of meat.

[SJHarrison4115]

I've read through this thread in it's entireity and I do hope that this garners some attention from 'the powers that be' as I think these discussions both for and against are healthy for a game and are literally the drip that feeds all of the information and direction as to how you should operate your service.

My primary motivation for posting (as you will see, I'm usually a forum lurker, not a poster) is that I am one of those "effected" players. The truth of the matter is that I've come and gone from ROR many times and in this instance, have recently returned. However, I've never played long enough to become a veteran or even really know all that much of the game. This time around is the closest I've gotten to starting to figure things out.

I played this game originally in it's BETA phase in like 2009 or something and I fell in love, but I was too young and dumb to figure it out properly as I was 13 at the time.

Now I'm 27 and I'm comfortable with the mechanics and I love the PVP... but I also have a full-time job, a family and sporting commitments. I still love to game and I am head-over-heels with Warhammer Online, I enjoy it at such a visereal level as there is quite literally, nothing like it and it seems dubious at best we will ever see anything like it again.

With all that preamble out of the way, we can start looking at the point of my posting. With all the love I have for this game and everything I still want to achieve with it... I'm having to struggle with the decision of whether I bother playing moving forward. Frankly, I'm too old and I don't have enough time to see getting romped for hour on hour in RvR lakes, or worse, I can't imagine spending those few sacred hours I have of an evening running boxes. Are you kidding me?

But what does one do in this situation? I love the game, heck for better or worse I love the community. It's genuinely refreshing having a mature community, however, that has it's own mix of blessings and flaws.

At this point, I'm still unsure of what I will do— I hope to continue playing the game, but I also can't swallow spending 6 months getting instagibbed or otherwise doing the most pathetically boring tasks just so I can eventually actually enjoy the game properly.

I'm not looking for a pity party, heck I'm not even suggesting that any changes be made with this post, I just wanted to share my experience as a New/Returning Player.

[vipevox]

This is a big part of the problem. Only a few new or returnees write about their needs and problems. Basically, the forum consists of posts from active players of a given server. And for this reason, developers do not properly understand the needs and desires of those who would like to discover ROR, but cannot afford it with the existing development system. The reasons in this topic have been described more than once.

[Stimpz]

My view on this matter is that people who hate the "grind" wouldn't play the game that much longer if they got their gear faster because it seems that they don't like the gameplay at all.

Sov gear is not everything, and I know it is a really, really unpopular opinion, but experience is 100 times better than BiS. If you have the feeling that you constantly get thrown into the meat grinder as a new player, then maybe it's the shocking truth that you probably lack the experience more than the gear.

I absolutely guarantee you that if you give a new player a character with BiS gear, they would die like in Conqueror gear.

But I wouldn't actively work against changes to faster progression because there are so many people who seem to struggle with it. I personally thought that they made a lot of changes for faster progression, but maybe my view is wrong.

Maybe some kind of faster progression after your first RR 80 character?

If you are not willing to play at least one character to RR 80, then you probably don't stick around that long at all.

[Reivren27]

My advice to the server developers: just do the x2 rr event more often, because twice a year is too little. In any other mmorpg, such events are much, much more frequent.

[germ32]

This server had a system years ago that once you hit 40RR you lost 50% RR gain. Then Once you hit 80.. you gained zero RR as 80 was the "cap" . People were playing and earning zero.crests earned in kills wasn't a thing years ago.

Believe me things have gotten so much easier to gain and earn. Not to mention "wasting" crests in low ur gear shouldn't be a thing as lobbies gear is a lot cheaper, some of it is trade able . If ur not playing in guilds that passing crests, help out it's Guidies then change guilds.Pve sets that skip having to earn pvp gear until endgame if you wish.

I see people constant giving out free Conq/Anni/merc and even some Vanq gear.

The whole point of this post is that Vanq is not good enough to compete with players wearing sov, nor do people want to attempt that for 6 months before having a level playing field. When there was a 50% rr reduction after level 40, the BiS gear only required rr 40 or 50. It is still too slow of progression to retain the average player.