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Zxul
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Re: Killboard - One class, only one, coming soon

Post#51 » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:15 pm

Everdin wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:38 pm Nothing more to say here, lol :D People like you throwing around unproofen just wrong claims trying to derail all future discussion about balancing this game are cancer for the game and destroy it much faster then any ws/parry path
Great, so now just repeating what has been said by WL players themselves, is a "throwing around unproofen just wrong claims trying to derail all future discussion". So I take it, by how much you protect the broken class, that you have a WL yourself, and don't feel like playing an actually balanced class?
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Nameless
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Re: Killboard - One class, only one, coming soon

Post#52 » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:58 pm

I will enter discussion only about Gork sez stop.
It is nice decent moral that is very good for pve (true healer adding tons of dps) and it is pretty solid for zerg surfing esp when heal spec. Since renown from healing is laughable you need to do some dps to gain something meaningful as renown and gss helps alot for that.
It is annoying when facing gss while trying to disengage fail push but nothing so game breaking.

Btw had 18k dmg kill from it but that is for sure l2p issue
Mostly harmless

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Everdin
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Re: Killboard - One class, only one, coming soon

Post#53 » Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:37 pm

Zxul wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:15 pm
Everdin wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:38 pm Nothing more to say here, lol :D People like you throwing around unproofen just wrong claims trying to derail all future discussion about balancing this game are cancer for the game and destroy it much faster then any ws/parry path
Great, so now just repeating what has been said by WL players themselves, is a "throwing around unproofen just wrong claims trying to derail all future discussion". So I take it, by how much you protect the broken class, that you have a WL yourself, and don't feel like playing an actually balanced class?
I have a WL, yes, but also decent squig, Shaman l, rp or we, some more chars in both sides, not sure what you take from this information, I'm just not as frustrated from the game to blame other players or classes for my faults in playstyle

Edit: about the meaningfulness of killboard top monthly mdps ist marauder
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Tisaya
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Re: Killboard - One class, only one, coming soon

Post#54 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:35 am

Nameless wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:58 pm I will enter discussion only about Gork sez stop.
It is nice decent moral that is very good for pve (true healer adding tons of dps) and it is pretty solid for zerg surfing esp when heal spec. Since renown from healing is laughable you need to do some dps to gain something meaningful as renown and gss helps alot for that.
It is annoying when facing gss while trying to disengage fail push but nothing so game breaking.

Btw had 18k dmg kill from it but that is for sure l2p issue
Give order 18k damage M1 if it's nothing game breaking.
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Fenris78
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Re: Killboard - One class, only one, coming soon

Post#55 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:02 am

Just need to restore decent dodge and disrupt scores for everyone, instead of rendering all rdps with 100% hitrate, and nobody will complain about any rdps being top score everytime.

Addind to that taking killboard and deathblows as reference to say X class is OP and such, is a very poor baseline for argumentation.

Otherwise I can tell Grufrip is OP, nerf choppa, because he got almost top kills in monthly + weekly leaderboard ?
Or maybe it's because he is a guild leader with plenty of assist, and built AoE glasscannon choppa, running into mass of opponents to get many deathlblows and very few deaths ?

what63
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Re: Killboard - One class, only one, coming soon

Post#56 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:13 am

Fenris78 wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:02 am Just need to restore decent dodge and disrupt scores for everyone, instead of rendering all rdps with 100% hitrate, and nobody will complain about any rdps being top score everytime.

Addind to that taking killboard and deathblows as reference to say X class is OP and such, is a very poor baseline for argumentation.

Otherwise I can tell Grufrip is OP, nerf choppa, because he got almost top kills in monthly + weekly leaderboard ?
Or maybe it's because he is a guild leader with plenty of assist, and built AoE glasscannon choppa, running into mass of opponents to get many deathlblows and very few deaths ?
Dodge was never a factor outside of HTL. There is nothing to restore as such.

Sulorie
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Re: Killboard - One class, only one, coming soon

Post#57 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:27 am

Tisaya wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:35 am
Nameless wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:58 pm I will enter discussion only about Gork sez stop.
It is nice decent moral that is very good for pve (true healer adding tons of dps) and it is pretty solid for zerg surfing esp when heal spec. Since renown from healing is laughable you need to do some dps to gain something meaningful as renown and gss helps alot for that.
It is annoying when facing gss while trying to disengage fail push but nothing so game breaking.

Btw had 18k dmg kill from it but that is for sure l2p issue
Give order 18k damage M1 if it's nothing game breaking.
Quite often it is a 150-450 damage moral and a wasted M1 cool down.
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Re: Killboard - One class, only one, coming soon

Post#58 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:14 am

Sulorie wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:27 am
Tisaya wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:35 am
Nameless wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:58 pm I will enter discussion only about Gork sez stop.
It is nice decent moral that is very good for pve (true healer adding tons of dps) and it is pretty solid for zerg surfing esp when heal spec. Since renown from healing is laughable you need to do some dps to gain something meaningful as renown and gss helps alot for that.
It is annoying when facing gss while trying to disengage fail push but nothing so game breaking.

Btw had 18k dmg kill from it but that is for sure l2p issue
Give order 18k damage M1 if it's nothing game breaking.
Quite often it is a 150-450 damage moral and a wasted M1 cool down.
18k dmg means the moral doesnt do enough spike dmg to secure the kill and show it is easy to outheal. As i said it is good for zerg surfing when enemy side start running and you secure kill and juicy renown even heal spec. For everything else is situational and i dont even slot it for whatever group activity we done. At solo environment is potent but we dont balance based on solo gameplay so meh
Mostly harmless

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Re: Killboard - One class, only one, coming soon

Post#59 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:34 am

Nameless wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:14 am
Sulorie wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:27 am
Tisaya wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:35 am

Give order 18k damage M1 if it's nothing game breaking.
Quite often it is a 150-450 damage moral and a wasted M1 cool down.
18k dmg means the moral doesnt do enough spike dmg to secure the kill and show it is easy to outheal. As i said it is good for zerg surfing when enemy side start running and you secure kill and juicy renown even heal spec. For everything else is situational and i dont even slot it for whatever group activity we done. At solo environment is potent but we dont balance based on solo gameplay so meh
Gork sez stop is good against players that don't know how it works. But it's also strong when it's paired with a punt, as this triggers the dot.

what63
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Re: Killboard - One class, only one, coming soon

Post#60 » Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:47 pm

Sulorie wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:27 am
Tisaya wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:35 am
Nameless wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:58 pm I will enter discussion only about Gork sez stop.
It is nice decent moral that is very good for pve (true healer adding tons of dps) and it is pretty solid for zerg surfing esp when heal spec. Since renown from healing is laughable you need to do some dps to gain something meaningful as renown and gss helps alot for that.
It is annoying when facing gss while trying to disengage fail push but nothing so game breaking.

Btw had 18k dmg kill from it but that is for sure l2p issue
Give order 18k damage M1 if it's nothing game breaking.
Quite often it is a 150-450 damage moral and a wasted M1 cool down.
Not unless the target dies from said damage. It continues to tick for as long as it is on regardless of movement, it will always deal the 600 damage when stationary. Moving simply restarts the duration timer, it is not like Touch of Palsy where movement itself triggers the damage. It is less bad in a worst case scenario for it than people think.

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