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Re: Revert the War Report change.
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:14 pm
by othr
That's an excellent perspective on things. People are too focused on kdr or whatever it is.
Re: Revert the War Report change.
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:00 pm
by Everdin
waerter wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:06 pm
The problem you're having isn't with the WR change, it's that you don't like the feeling of dying in RvR
Thats correct.
The blob eats the warband, the warband eats the party, the party eats the duo, and everyone eats the solo.
Thats also correct. But I don't want to accept that the tactical options to do something about it are taken away just so that the bigger one has an even easier time finishing off the weaker one.
Guerrilla warfare must be possible even in warhammer. And that includes being able to disappear sometimes.
Nothing has changed this way, you still can warreport away to be somewhere else, just not in front of a warband. The ability to be quick somewhere else has not changed, you die -> go somwhere else, just a few seconds more to reach warcamp then with WR. Only your feelings changed (and your kdr).
Re: Revert the War Report change.
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:56 pm
by Lucious
I feel the only way to decrease blobbing is to increase RVR map size and add x2 BO's or more. Blobbing will not be able to dominate control over the map over smaller multiple groups or WB's. Maybe even have the extra BO's open up once there is a certain number of players in the RVR zone.
As for the WR, it was never designed to escape death, it was designed to bring you to it.
Re: Revert the War Report change.
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:01 am
by BoriqOne
Dackjanielz wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:31 am
Just another punishment for daring to be a casual player....They must be exterminated!
I know right.
Re: Revert the War Report change.
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 7:03 am
by Keula
waerter wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:06 pm
But I don't want to accept that the tactical options to do something about it are taken away just so that the bigger one has an even easier time finishing off the weaker one.
Guerrilla warfare must be possible even in warhammer. And that includes being able to disappear sometimes.
Just alt+f4 then, basically the same "tactic" if you really care about k/d that much that the idea of dying to mass numbers is just too much to bear, even though it's the same end result.
Re: Revert the War Report change.
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:13 am
by AleXizzed
The only people complaining about the WR changes are KDA players.
Change was needed,
Big W.
Re: Revert the War Report change.
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:34 am
by Everdin
A little qol change would be to remove the timer if not rvr flaged
Re: Revert the War Report change.
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:03 am
by fatelvis
AleXizzed wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:13 am
The only people complaining about the WR changes are KDA players.
Change was needed,
Big W.
The only people cheering about the WR changes are smallscale/WB players who were denied easy kills before.
Change was not needed,
Big... L, assuming W stands for win.
Re: Revert the War Report change.
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:13 am
by Blorke
Best change in the past weeks. It's called war report for a reason and not the "great escape-button".
Re: Revert the War Report change.
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:31 am
by Dajciekrwi
Martok wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:42 am
lumpi33 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:13 pmThe game would be much better with more solos, pugs and small groups running around. That blobbing and premade wb meta is just awful.
I agree.
On the issue at hand. I always saw the War Report as little more than a means for players to quickly move from one zone to another when applicable. That it could also be used as an occasional escape tool was a bonus feature. It was fine as implemented. In regard to the change I also agree it was unnecessary.
lumpi33 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:13 pmYou should start thinking about how to break up that meta e.g. by limiting warbands to 12 players to get rid of these roaming veterans wbs taking the fun of all others for hours instead of changing things to make it worse for everybody else and feeding them more.
Roaming Warbands have been a staple of the game ever since ever. What has impacted that Meta is the size of the player-base. You want more small-scale groups running around, you need more people.
Making Warbands as 12 ppl is one and only one REALISTIC option. When we will end this daydream about "more people" in game??
Best time for RoR is past, and will be NO MORE PPL - just accept that.