Order is in poor shape

[Twyxx]

^Screw you too, Eiger!

And to the character archetype thing, I've said before that I think (on Order at least, I wouldn't be too sure about Destro) people would roll healers if people stopped telling healers how bad they are (and then the continued rant from people in /advice).

[Penril]

I play mostly destro, but last weekend i leveled my SW and WP to 20. Here are my thoughts:

1) Order simply doesn't know how to play Reikland Factory. They always go to mid BO and stay fighting there, ignoring both back BO's.

2) Order has a lot of rdps classes that, once again, don't know how to play RF. They fight at ground level instead of going up the stairs and taking advantage of the higher ground.

3) I know this one applies to both realms, but i noticed a **** ton of people attacking enemy tanks. Last night my whole SC was attacking a Chosen and BG at fort in Nordenwatch while a squishy Zealot was healing them both not 30 feet away from them.

4) At least during my playtime, i did notice order really lacked tanks. Several SC's i played had only one (or none!) tanks, making it impossible for our bazillion SWs/BWs to do anything.

[RyanMakara]

To be honest I just played my first SC since I returned and Order got their asses kicked, I'll just stick to ORvR by the looks of it. c:

[magter3001]

Order just needs more melee classes. If you're ranged and being chased by a melee class, they'll chase you out of the scenario. And with the whole "cap 3 and win" objective, ypu can quickly win those scenarios after the first fight.

[RyanMakara]

Order just needs more melee classes. If you're ranged and being chased by a melee class, they'll chase you out of the scenario. And with the whole "cap 3 and win" objective, ypu can quickly win those scenarios after the first fight.

Which shouldn't be the case. being able to swiftly dominate the battlefield isn't much of an issue once you get organised and manage to push back into the map. Only downside is the 3 captured flags will ensure the SC will be over in 2 minutes, so your struggle is pointless and even if you DO get the upper hand, it's a short-lived 'victory' that'll result in a loss anyway.

Solution to keep people fighting in an SC is to make the SC score tickers slower. Then again, this might ensure that the losing team will /yawn in spawn for 5-10 more minutes before finally being allowed to leave .

[amputationsaw]

order just needs to learn to stop attacking the **** tanks and focus healers. all the time i'm the only one trying to handle **** with 3-5 destro healers

[TenTonHammer]

To be fair level 20 healers are extremely difficult/take very long to take down zel/rp have their flash heals and are kite-y; dok/wp have their second resource pool to draw from

Only am and shammy feel manageable in that the don’t take 3+ people to kill but that’s seems like cause most people are playing them as dps

[Tiggo]

I play mostly destro, but last weekend i leveled my SW and WP to 20. Here are my thoughts:

but as you played order, you dont know all those things either!

[amputationsaw]

To be fair level 20 healers are extremely difficult/take very long to take down zel/rp have their flash heals and are kite-y; dok/wp have their second resource pool to draw from

Only am and shammy feel manageable in that the don’t take 3+ people to kill but that’s seems like cause most people are playing them as dps

indeed and because that at least 3 dps have to focus 1 heal to build up pressure for the others. i know, sometimes it seems very hopeless to attack healers because (as order) you have to face even 5 of them, so its in some cases better to focus down dps. but because the RDPS is standing too far away for some lazy players, they prefer to hack on the tanks or overhealed mdps.

[Vrierst]

Order attacks tanks because they are OP!!!!

LOL.

Bad players are everywhere in both realms. Me the first of them, although I've played this game since 2008.

Order usually zergs Destruction in prime time, because of that, many people tend to play on their own instead of form tough groups as premades or big warbands.

On the other hand, Destruction players must organize their groups to be able to do something worthy. They dont play alone, and look for others to help themselves against the massive crowd of orders camping around.

This is no a matter of being more inteligent, or smarter, or something involved with the Realm we chose, it's just something that allways happens when there is an unbalanced server. And it's fine, because zergers can continue zerging, and zergeds are able to improve their characters faster, in order to naturally balance the system.

Following this thread, the scenarios system with the trophies for victory could help Destruction to get better weapons before Order does. In less than a couple of weeks, we're going to see more "harder to kill" premades of Destuction, and less and less Order players playing, and we will get slowly but surely, a balanced server of experienced or good players in both sides.