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Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:21 pm
by Luth
I updated the main post again + the poll is now clearly about a temporary change until T3 is released and you can change your vote if you want.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:44 pm
by katroulitsa
Telen wrote:
katroulitsa wrote:You have my yes simply cuz Telen is against it <3
Sorry I got so many kills on your sorc just let it go
Funny cuz i havent played my sorc in a bit :P But i still love you Tel, even if u kill me <3

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:07 pm
by Azarael
I'm a little confused about why RA requires 9 points, but SS requires 5, when the skills are actually mirrors. I must confess I didn't read the skill description of RA too closely and assumed there was some feature of the skill to justify it, but I see nothing.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:24 pm
by Telen
Azarael wrote:I'm a little confused about why RA requires 9 points, but SS requires 5, when the skills are actually mirrors. I must confess I didn't read the skill description of RA too closely and assumed there was some feature of the skill to justify it, but I see nothing.
Well its the only spamable heal debuff in the whole game. That it can be cleansed by des main healer (dok) and not orders (wp) gives a big advantage to des. At 27 when gcleanse comes in it becomes even more of a game changer as sw debuff will be cleansed while sh can spam debuffs that order cant cleanse. The original devs probably wanted to hold it back for that reason.

Des particularly Penril will be horrified by the idea des might have some balance advantage somewhere because as we always hear from des players 'the devs played order'.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:35 pm
by Azarael
Telen wrote:At 27 when gcleanse comes in it becomes even more of a game changer as sw debuff will be cleansed while sh can spam debuffs that order cant cleanse.
Group cleanse itself is pretty high on the list of things to reevaluate.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:59 pm
by Vigfuss
I don't think there is really a need to increase the level cap to 21 at this point is there? Might as well go for 30 with tier 3, and then look at how that shakes out.

btw: With typical healing specs cleanse isn't spammable, so it works out basically the same.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:27 am
by Azarael
I thought the level cap for T2 was 21 in old tiers and 26 in new, that's all.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:37 am
by Telen
It was 20 in the old tiers. Maras debuffing wounds at 21 with TB would 2 shot lvl12s.

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:57 am
by Penril
Funny how people talk about me in this thread and my only post was a "no". L2read Telenâ˜ș

Re: Poll: SH healdebuff on level 21 (temp change until T3)

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:22 am
by Toldavf
Id say as a community we should just bare with it and let the devs work on squashing bugs and adding content.