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Re: Whats up with the population ratio between destruction and order?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:05 am
by baurogg
Peijakas wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:04 pm
Mara nerf was an inside job.
And today we saw, it wasnt too much of a nerf.
Re: Whats up with the population ratio between destruction and order?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:15 am
by lyncher12
really the problem is the warband guilds that would be pushing city for destro went to order or aren't online. you can only do so much cat herding with pugs and it really isnt enough to break through the defender advantage
Re: Whats up with the population ratio between destruction and order?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:47 am
by Fatpig
nat3s wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:14 am
Bunch of Destro guilds re-rolled Order as we were tired of the incorrect forum narrative that Destro are OP which has driven changes such as the Mara aoe nerf, which was not warranted.
Order has for quite some time had both the best melee and ranged damage and significantly overpowered mirror match ups, you just didn't have as many hardcore guilds running pure meta setups. I suspect in maybe 2 months you'll have a massive Order overpop and big Order city stomps in addition to their SC, Keep and Fort stomps.
Maybe then we can revisit the conversation about the state of Mara vs WL, Choppa vs Slayer and BW vs Sorc once the point has been made.
hahahaahahahahahaaaaa.......
Re: Whats up with the population ratio between destruction and order?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:38 am
by forsa
Its funny that yesterday destro rolfstomped underpopulated order, pushing 2 forts at once for that juicy 5* Altdorf...
Much nerf, buff up mara plox whine-whine.
Re: Whats up with the population ratio between destruction and order?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:46 am
by havartii
Yea I don't get how the Mara gets nerf bat while WL stays un touched.

Re: Whats up with the population ratio between destruction and order?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:57 am
by Gurf
Most top RR Mara players agreed they did too much aoe damage. They still wreck in cities as last few have proven.
Mara has more survivability, more utility - aoe knockdown, aoe cooldown reducer, morale drain, WL has more single target damage (reliant on pet which gets nuked in rvr and city) and pounce. You want to nerf WL so it has same damage as Mara but less survivability, less utility and still relies on pet?
Re: Whats up with the population ratio between destruction and order?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:40 am
by M0rw47h
What AoE CDR Mara has now?
Re: Whats up with the population ratio between destruction and order?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:45 am
by Gurf
M0rw47h wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:40 am
What AoE CDR Mara has now?
Sorry aoe disorient build up increaser
Re: Whats up with the population ratio between destruction and order?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:46 am
by havartii
Mara has to spec survivability at a cost to damage, does not come close to burst of WL. The pet is a double sided knife, yea it sucks in some situations. But the best in game in others. You need to catch someone (shaman) running away? The pet will out run them, or you spam pounce. Your honestly going to try and tell me WL lacks utility.. nice joke. Everyone agrees the burst is over tuned.
Re: Whats up with the population ratio between destruction and order?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:51 am
by Gurf
WL utility isn't as good as Mara, especially in City and general warband play. Good in small scale and scenarios yes.
WL is the only order character which stands a chance of killing Shaman. You should try playing heal AM who gets trounced by every Destro mdps and then play Shammy who has to look out for only one, only has one nemises it needs to keep an eye on.