MAJOR PROBLEM IN T2-T3 - 16-39 ACKNOWLEWGED

[Glorian]

Pretty much what Sulorie says.
Not only Health but all stats are buffed.
Don't go 1vs1 even if Bolstered as you miss abilities and tactics.
Play as most SCs as you can before reaching lvl 40.
Because at 40 you will be set vs the hard guys.

[elykz]

The fact someone uses xp reduction pot only means he enjoys T3. There is not really twinks in this game. If you inspect the people you call twinks, there is a high chance that you will be highly disappointed..

Also, it's perfectly normal for an aoe BW running premade to outdamage you, it's how the game is designed.

Meet friends, get organized, learn more about the game, improve your overall game awareness, try to think about what you can improve in your gameplay.. if things don't improve.. well **** happens. But in most cases, things should improve naturally..

[Dakiaris]

All the players who are like "I see nothing wrong here" are honestly being disingenuous when saying "well new players just need to you know get some experience and do it themselves".

Farming the enemy 500 to 0 where the ENTIRE enemy team gets no xp or rr and telling them to get experience.... Honestly seems toxic as hell.

I mean I'm 74 games in and hadn't won but 2... I've gotten a single level and 1 rr at lvl 28..... Do you understand how stupid that is on a double xp/rr event ?

Anyway I'm sure that people will be like "duh just get good bro" or some crap happens in every pvp game but seriously doing this just chases people away and will end up making the pop very small in the long run. Give it a few weeks then go about your business don't stomp the newbies and chase them away.

Sir... it is impossible to play 74 scenarios and only have 1 renown rank. Also, losing doesn't magically change to winning without effort. You think a 6-man premade is bad? Wait until you run into a full 24 and they delete your health bar by just saying "3.. 2.. 1.. BOMB" in voice coms. The game is built around team play.

It was more like 20 but at double xp/rr and only getting around 1 level that's obscene. Do you not realize 500 to sub 20 gives 0 xp/renown. Also to the other people pointing out they scale your stats... It's true they scale your stats.... Just not your gear and due to t2 and 3 being combined there's massive gear disparity making it so the more gear oriented classes which is basically any melee/physical dealers are 100% boned when they go up against casters/healers.

Honestly the only way I see my way around this is I'm just going to grind to 40 and let my rr get gimped as hell and buy the cheap renown gear so I'm not 100% naked and grind my rr when I'm out of this hellish bracket.

[Lithenir]

Spoiler:

All the players who are like "I see nothing wrong here" are honestly being disingenuous when saying "well new players just need to you know get some experience and do it themselves".

Farming the enemy 500 to 0 where the ENTIRE enemy team gets no xp or rr and telling them to get experience.... Honestly seems toxic as hell.

I mean I'm 74 games in and hadn't won but 2... I've gotten a single level and 1 rr at lvl 28..... Do you understand how stupid that is on a double xp/rr event ?

Anyway I'm sure that people will be like "duh just get good bro" or some crap happens in every pvp game but seriously doing this just chases people away and will end up making the pop very small in the long run. Give it a few weeks then go about your business don't stomp the newbies and chase them away.

Sir... it is impossible to play 74 scenarios and only have 1 renown rank. Also, losing doesn't magically change to winning without effort. You think a 6-man premade is bad? Wait until you run into a full 24 and they delete your health bar by just saying "3.. 2.. 1.. BOMB" in voice coms. The game is built around team play.

It was more like 20 but at double xp/rr and only getting around 1 level that's obscene. Do you not realize 500 to sub 20 gives 0 xp/renown. Also to the other people pointing out they scale your stats... It's true they scale your stats.... Just not your gear and due to t2 and 3 being combined there's massive gear disparity making it so the more gear oriented classes which is basically any melee/physical dealers are 100% boned when they go up against casters/healers.

Honestly the only way I see my way around this is I'm just going to grind to 40 and let my rr get gimped as hell and buy the cheap renown gear so I'm not 100% naked and grind my rr when I'm out of this hellish bracket.

This would be the worst you could do. What do you think will happen when you are lvl 40 with RR 3x or worse? Facing RR80+ with your gear won't make any difference to what it is now. You will lose some scs with 500to0 in T4 also. What would be the solution because this would be also very hellish? Making another topic called "MAJOR PROBLEM IN T4"?
I give you that it is frustrating to be a fresh lvl 16 in T4 and mid-tier-sc but you have to find ways to get through the hard times. Find people to group up with, go in the RvR lakes if sc really doesn't work. Run supplies in the more empty lakes, get ZonePop to avoid the zerg zones (usually Empire), maybe quest to lvl 30 and then take the -xp roll to catch up with the RR.

Avoiding "this hellish bracket" will just send you in a deeper and darker hell.

[Sulorie]

... Also to the other people pointing out they scale your stats... It's true they scale your stats.... Just not your gear and due to t2 and 3 being combined there's massive gear disparity making it so the more gear oriented classes which is basically any melee/physical dealers are 100% boned when they go up against casters/healers.

Honestly the only way I see my way around this is I'm just going to grind to 40 and let my rr get gimped as hell and buy the cheap renown gear so I'm not 100% naked and grind my rr when I'm out of this hellish bracket.

Man, the gear ARE your stats. Obviously that stat value on your items don't change on your paper doll but this doesn't mean, they are not increased.

If I knew your char name, I could see your gear and check whether it is appropriate for your rank.

Playing melee classes can be frustrating, because they need more support e.g. tank and heals, as they will get damage. Additionally you have to learn when to engage and when to retreat on a melee dd, you have to time your attacks right and not just charge in yolo style and get melted in seconds. This means, you need patience to wait for a good moment to attack. When the odds are against you, you don't attack. Properly played, melee dd are very strong.

A properly played rdps melts their targets. Range phys dd even better against low armor targets and there are plenty as many ppl don't wear proper gear.
With rank 19 you get your first main stat tactic and with 20 appropriate sc weapons. From then onward you will do totally fine, if you know how to gear and play.

When you grind to T4 you shouldn't assume, that it will be better. There you actually fight against ppl who know what they do, at least the chances are much higher to encounter those players.

[Orpheus66]

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Blaisenit here btw, Just a full twinked out AOE bomb BW level 39. running in a 6 man with guard bot and pocket healers. I understand what i did was lack of fun for the other side and tis why i only did it for 5 SC's tonight. The above link is 1.5mins into the SC and below is the after SC is done. Again i understand its not fun for the other side but it is just a 6 man, have new friends playing the game and just farming XP/RP/Emblems.



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I find the people who are most dedicated to twinking generally suck when they fight on their mains in fair and equal combat so in order for them to feel good about themselves they twink a character and dominate a scenario like this

I just see a sad player who has bully on new/lowbies to feel good about a game they suck in

[Sulorie]

I find the people who are most dedicated to twinking generally suck when they fight on their mains in fair and equal combat so in order for them to feel good about themselves they twink a character and dominate a scenario like this

I just see a sad player who has bully on new/lowbies to feel good about a game they suck in

I just see a player trying to find excuses for losing a fight.

Their stats are getting worse the higher their rank becomes, because the higher ranked gear doesn't compete with the bolster.

Every day we see players in T4 sc playing on the level of fresh T1 newbies.
It seems they never faced a challenge and were forced to improve.

Those so called premades, who dominate t2-3 sc, are not high skill level by any means.
They only use stuff which you should have learned in T1 already, or when do you think comes the magical moment, when you will discover guard swap, assist and positioning?

We have a friendly community, willing to help new players but there is one requirement, the new player has to be proactive and seek for help, when they struggle. Objectively there is no reason to struggle, so seeing a roadblock as a new player is a hint, that there is something to learn for them.

[Cirronis]

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Blaisenit here btw, Just a full twinked out AOE bomb BW level 39. running in a 6 man with guard bot and pocket healers. I understand what i did was lack of fun for the other side and tis why i only did it for 5 SC's tonight. The above link is 1.5mins into the SC and below is the after SC is done. Again i understand its not fun for the other side but it is just a 6 man, have new friends playing the game and just farming XP/RP/Emblems.



https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png

I find the people who are most dedicated to twinking generally suck when they fight on their mains in fair and equal combat so in order for them to feel good about themselves they twink a character and dominate a scenario like this

I just see a sad player who has bully on new/lowbies to feel good about a game they suck in

i do not think im dedicated to twinking at all. ?? its double XP and i have 2 healers 40/70 and 1 healer 40/80 I wanted to get a new toon 40 and geared. not dedicated just want to get gear ASAP best way to do that is get invaders from forts when you hit 40, to do that you need to be RR 50, or better get Royal's from city which takes RR70, so rather than hiting 40/40 and being in hell i hit 40/55-60 and am able to compete vs the other 40/80+ toons who are now getting sov gear.

[adamthelc]

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Blaisenit here btw, Just a full twinked out AOE bomb BW level 39. running in a 6 man with guard bot and pocket healers. I understand what i did was lack of fun for the other side and tis why i only did it for 5 SC's tonight. The above link is 1.5mins into the SC and below is the after SC is done. Again i understand its not fun for the other side but it is just a 6 man, have new friends playing the game and just farming XP/RP/Emblems.



https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png

I find the people who are most dedicated to twinking generally suck when they fight on their mains in fair and equal combat so in order for them to feel good about themselves they twink a character and dominate a scenario like this

I just see a sad player who has bully on new/lowbies to feel good about a game they suck in

Do you wear starter gear until max level? There is no twinking in this game. What you should see is a bad group that cant stop a BW in a 3 man using a sub optimal scenario spec.

Some guy posted about how he got put in a trash can a few times by a better group, which is true. What he didnt post about was the other groups we also played the same day that put up a much better fight.

You know who I find generally suck? The people that want to cry about how unfair something is that beat them. Instead of getting pissed off they got beaten so bad and try to prove they are better than that "twinking" group by putting THEM in a trash can.

Farming people is actually pretty boring and usually results in finding something else to do pretty quick.

[Jahledan]

"Nobody here has to defend anything, we all were in the same level range multiple times with new chars. I bet most here struggling have poor gear for their rank. Instead of complaining about gear gaps, ask for help to get proper gear."

Where is it that I asked you for anything? I don't want anything from you trust me. Dont worry sulorie I will avoid you at all cost. if that is not in game name let me know so I dont ruin your game time.
After all I know reading comprehension is a hard thing. "Just for the record I'm not gripping or pushing against the "Man" here." Yet you go to the I'm complaining argument when I clearly stated this in an earlier post. Also if you had read my 1st post i already know all about tailsman and such." I was truly happy when my son sent me a link to this game being an old player from "Official" game launch." I see you nitpick what you want to severe your need to be nasty. I dont need enemies on a forum NOR did I come looking for any.

I did not mean to upset you in such a drastic way that you take your anger out on a stranger.Farewell hope it gets better for you.

To everybody else not sulorie Thanks for your time.