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Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:04 pm
by kam19080
kam19080 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:03 pm
kam19080 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:59 pm
Gunlinger wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:49 pm
The source of the power that makes the DoK the better DPS/Heal Hybrid are his dual wielded
one hand weapons. The Dok is able to get faster aa hits. The WP does have higher hitting aa.
But he hits slower, so the DoK gets more small hits in short clashes, where the WP would need longer contact to his target.
Maybe the solution to even the odds would be to give the WP the abillity to dual wield one handed hammers and in exchange the abillity to wear a 2 hand sword to the DoK.
Not only the weapon, but also the skill such as devour essence and sigma's shield.
Devour is an aoe life steal, but Sigma's shield is a mitigation skill.
And the prayer, WP is hit for heal and dmg when hit, DOK is dmg+heal(life steal) and dmg+snare(CC)
Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:08 pm
by Sulorie
kam19080 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:59 pmDELETED
You have to delete much more than this. :^)
There is a preview button, which might help.
Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:31 pm
by BeautfulToad
wargrimnir wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:58 pm
I'm pretty sure Grace WP is still counted as a healer. It's the DPS part that's discriminated against.
It was not even grace, it was just using shield instead of book as Salvation I was meaning. But grace should probably be a healing class.
Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:55 pm
by CountTalabecland
Give WP dual hammers for increased hammerin’ time.
Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:05 pm
by Ototo
CountTalabecland wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:55 pm
Give WP dual hammers for increased hammerin’ time.
I was commenting this exactly the other day in-game. All people would roll a WP for the lulz
Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:52 pm
by uanaka
Just providing some quick context on potential damage output from DPS WP.
Blah blah, this is a simulated environment against target dummies, blah blah, DPS WP are best paired with classes that can spirit and resist debuff, blah blah.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... ,4191,4189
Pretty standard build and tactics when solo, or you can't rely on having another WP for the wounds debuff.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/r ... ;0;0;3;0;0
Pretty standard renown build, blah blah, this is what I run in solo ranked.
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/armor ... er/1006573
That's the gear that I run, unfortunately no Bloodlord 2h cause I was an idiot and thought there would be a vendor to trade like for city dungeons. Full strength talis 22+, 1str/1ws in 2h.
756 str, 398 ws, 0.2% chance to be crit, 8120 wounds (with 680 from wounds buff)
858 str with str buff, 508 ws (with 6 piece bloodlord proc)
https://imgur.com/a/ddcaL7j
Couple of screenshots I fumbled to take showing damage output. Trying to lineup bloodlord procs with guilty soul, while maintaining self buffs and trying to take a screenshot was harder than it seemed hence I took a couple.
Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:13 am
by kam19080
Sulorie wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:08 pm
kam19080 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:59 pmDELETED
You have to delete much more than this. :^)
There is a preview button, which might help.
There is a bug of the delete post button disappeared....
How can i delete the whole post...
Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:26 am
by dalen
Ototo wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:05 pm
CountTalabecland wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:55 pm
Give WP dual hammers for increased hammerin’ time.
I was commenting this exactly the other day in-game. All people would roll a WP for the lulz
It would be compliant with lore
Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:53 pm
by oub972
Another Cucklord there...
QQ Nerf Dok QQ
Well order whining worked again, no worry now Curse of khaine does'nt trigger on aoe spells anymore !
When devs are gonna nerf Rampage ?
During 20 sec you can't block or parry slayers attack with only 30 sec CD ? (so every 10 sec) and it's a buff
On Choppa it's 10 sec, 50% debuff parry and block with 60 SEC CD ? oh, and it trigger only if target does parry or block
But wait.. What ? Oh nvm i just heard main devs plays order
Re: DPS DOK is too overpowered when compared with WP.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:01 pm
by Ototo
oub972 wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:53 pm
Another Cucklord there...
QQ Nerf Dok QQ
Well order whining worked again, no worry now Curse of khaine does'nt trigger on aoe spells anymore !
When devs are gonna nerf Rampage ?
During 20 sec you can't block or parry slayers attack with only 30 sec CD ? (so every 10 sec) and it's a buff
On Choppa it's 10 sec, 50% debuff parry and block with 60 SEC CD ? oh, and it trigger only if target does parry or block
But wait.. What ? Oh nvm i just heard main devs plays order
There's the door. You are kindly invited to use it, and take with you your "dev bias" bs.
