Patch notes 22/12/2018

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bulgy70
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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018

Post#51 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:46 am

Haskr wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:42 am
bulgy70 wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:38 am
hogun wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:20 am i have 200 in strong and its not very rare to see very small damage... but that seems normal to me, I wanted to say that it is VERY rare to see a DPS do 1 damage, obviously when a healer beats me with his staff( or a tank def with is shield) I do not look at the damage!

and what are the caractere that can have 1000+ in tougn ( or more thant 75% reduce domage with tougness )?

IB probably , and ?
When an order tanks beats on my BG it never does 1 point of damages, and i can have over 1100 thoughness, but when we beat on a order tank we see it all the time.
lets thinking about this, it is okay for Order, but desto just have to suck it up and live with it.
oh boy what a pile of steaming rubbish, I played order and destro alike and there is no secret conspiracy going mate.
Never said there was an conspiracy going on, just saying it as it is.

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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018

Post#52 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:47 am

Dalgrimar wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:29 am You are basically forcing everyone to go full batshit on PvE.
PvP sets are fully inferiour now.

Would you like to run us some math on that? Or the procs are so op that it's indeed not really needed?
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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018

Post#53 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:48 am

hogun wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:20 am i have 200 in strong and its not very rare to see very small damage... but that seems normal to me, I wanted to say that it is VERY rare to see a DPS do 1 damage, obviously when a healer beats me with his staff( or a tank def with is shield) I do not look at the damage!

and what are the caractere that can have 1000+ in tougn ( or more thant 75% reduce domage with tougness )?

IB sur , and ?
With 1000+ tou you only reduce the attacker main stat. They still have ability base stats. When you reduce those by 75% armor, then I still see no way to get only 1 dmg. Maybe against people with low main stats, who shouldn't attack to begin with. :D
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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018

Post#54 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:48 am

bulgy70 wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:46 am
Haskr wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:42 am
bulgy70 wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:38 am
When an order tanks beats on my BG it never does 1 point of damages, and i can have over 1100 thoughness, but when we beat on a order tank we see it all the time.
lets thinking about this, it is okay for Order, but desto just have to suck it up and live with it.
oh boy what a pile of steaming rubbish, I played order and destro alike and there is no secret conspiracy going mate.
Never said there was an conspiracy going on, just saying it as it is.
but then you have to back it up with numbers if you believe there is something wrong with the dmg mitigation between the realms.

If you cannot do that you should not post at all.

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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018

Post#55 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:49 am

bulgy70 wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:38 am
hogun wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:20 am i have 200 in strong and its not very rare to see very small damage... but that seems normal to me, I wanted to say that it is VERY rare to see a DPS do 1 damage, obviously when a healer beats me with his staff( or a tank def with is shield) I do not look at the damage!

and what are the caractere that can have 1000+ in tougn ( or more thant 75% reduce domage with tougness )?

IB probably , and ?
When an order tanks beats on my BG it never does 1 point of damages, and i can have over 1100 thoughness, but when we beat on a order tank we see it all the time.
lets thinking about this, it is okay for Order, but desto just have to suck it up and live with it.
Do you think that the rules of destruction are different between order and destruction? I do not think that's the case.
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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018

Post#56 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:50 am

Alfinnete wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:21 am
DanielWinner wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:01 am
Alfinnete wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:57 am WH and WE, to king of class...?? This class has everything, absurd damage, mobility, aoe, absurd parry, ignores all armor, knocks on all sides, runs invisible, CC for 8 seconds, ignores damage ... how about giving them a bazooka and two swords of two hands?

Sry but this server breake the classes all days...
You know that it worked like this, figuratively, during the era of disrupt? It adds some sense to those abilities cause before there were no use pressing them when you were already dotted to hell.
You need to talk to the community about so much improvement for some classes while others are almost forgotten. Not sense for example to make a choppa if a WE is doing almost its role, AOE, has more penetration of armor, ignores armor, has its particular invisible "charge", absurd mobility. While a choppa needs two more classes to at least walk without dying.

I do not play Choppa but I see how much this class suffers in my guild.
When you play WE/WH to spam aoe, you need the same support as choppa/slayer. Their armor penetration has no effect on aoe builds, where both other classes have the edge due to higher ws.
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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018

Post#57 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:51 am

hogun wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:49 am
bulgy70 wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:38 am
hogun wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:20 am i have 200 in strong and its not very rare to see very small damage... but that seems normal to me, I wanted to say that it is VERY rare to see a DPS do 1 damage, obviously when a healer beats me with his staff( or a tank def with is shield) I do not look at the damage!

and what are the caractere that can have 1000+ in tougn ( or more thant 75% reduce domage with tougness )?

IB probably , and ?
When an order tanks beats on my BG it never does 1 point of damages, and i can have over 1100 thoughness, but when we beat on a order tank we see it all the time.
lets thinking about this, it is okay for Order, but desto just have to suck it up and live with it.
Do you think that the rules of destruction are different between order and destruction? I do not think that's the case. also if you have 1100 of endue and 5K armor it will be the same of both sides, after the BG had a Difficult Up to understand on its line 2m, since it has optenu the skill of the SM. it seems to me that with this kill you do not really have any reason to play shield with a lot of tougness, but this is only my opinion.
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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018

Post#58 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:52 am

Hargrim wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:47 am
Dalgrimar wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:29 am You are basically forcing everyone to go full batshit on PvE.
PvP sets are fully inferiour now.

Would you like to run us some math on that? Or the procs are so op that it's indeed not really needed?
too strong compared to pvp gear available, when people will have their gear it will not be surprising to see threads about that :lol:

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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018

Post#59 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:54 am

Dalgrimar wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:29 am You are basically forcing everyone to go full batshit on PvE.
PvP sets are fully inferiour now.
Where you see that?
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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018

Post#60 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:56 am

WExWH wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:52 am
Hargrim wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:47 am
Dalgrimar wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:29 am You are basically forcing everyone to go full batshit on PvE.
PvP sets are fully inferiour now.

Would you like to run us some math on that? Or the procs are so op that it's indeed not really needed?
too strong compared to pvp gear available, when people will have their gear it will not be surprising to see threads about that :lol:

So, where is that math I asked about?
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