Patch Notes 16/12/2017

[Manatikik]

order crying .... nice ... finely

Don't know where you've been... Both sides cry every change and constantly about (other guys) bias.


Just one point: Whitling Pin (and SH equiv) were working as intended; this change is changing how they work. This change will help newer SW/SH use and understand a wonky mechanic and really only hurts Steakthers in a 1v1 situation (which doesn't matter for balance so is irrelevant).

@Torque - did the init stacking go live or is that still under consideration?

Solid patch, thanks for all the hard work!

[Tesq]

are ppl even complaining about sw/squig change, they tough it was fine prevent a skill just because you are immune to a secondary effect XD?

you are immune you dont get snare xD, that's an escape tool it need to work as an escape tool, that's totally right XD

[Panzerkasper]

What’s the reasoning to the change to Crippling Strikes?

It went from being a defensive tool (less dmg from target - and didn’t it used to be a 25% dmg reduction, by the way?) to a very offensive one.

At a glance, it looks like a quite huge buff to Chosen/Destruction: a somewhat mirroring of KotBS EA tactic, but without the Great Weapon/aura restriction - i.e. can be used with SnB and any auras (correct me, if I’m wrong).

With a 2-hander, Chosens can now also have a default +25% crit chance on their target - without even a point spent i renown crit.

Add in the access to a default moralepump tactic (which the knight or any of the other order tanks doesn’t have), it seems a bit unbalanced.

Wow, that is a lot of poinion for such a lack of knowledge.

It used to be a good defensive tool with a 25% reduction, wich in the end only had a 10% damage reduction. No one was really using it, because it was garbage.

CS requires crit to happen and the chosen can only have a reliable amount of crit with a 2h weapon, wich also makes your "muhrale pump" arguement invalid. Also Chosen has to actually hit something and not just give crit by turning an aura on
Also morale pump is pretty garbage now and takes forever.

The change done here makes the Marauder less a must have, and makes BG more attractive. It opens up some more group compositions.

[Charon]

- Fixed so that Sigmar's Shield properly only drains resource on healeffect
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1. Is this buff or nerf becouse i dont get it and how it should help melee WP. Sorry but if im need resources in combat its not fury but ap. 2h wp is starving for AP basicly and with destruction more and more common ap drain abilities it is even more painfull (ap pots dont fix that). I would like like hear clarificaton from devs. Do you realy think that 2h wp melee healer or dps work well or its somthing wrong with me.

2. im not sure but i feel that 2h Chosen + 2h Bg crossguard duo have ability to replace any destro melee dps setup (stop enemy, engage and deal big amount of dmg while survive a lot) 2h knight 2h ib duo dont have such firepower. We will see how it influence especialy smal scale fights . For now i think need to invest more in spirit resistance potions and taliks.

[peterthepan3]

- Fixed so that Sigmar's Shield properly only drains resource on healeffect
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1. Is this buff or nerf becouse i dont get it and how it should help melee WP. Sorry but if im need resources in combat its not fury but ap. 2h wp is starving for AP basicly and with destruction more and more common ap drain abilities it is even more painfull (ap pots dont fix that). I would like like hear clarificaton from devs. Do you realy think that 2h wp melee healer or dps work well or its somthing wrong with me.

2. i feel that 2h Chosen + 2h Bg crossguard duo have ability to replace any destro melee dps setup (stop enemy, engage and deal big amount of dmg while survive a lot) 2h knight 2h ib duo dont have such firepower. We will see how it influence especialy smal scale fights . For now i think need to invest more in spirit resistance potions and taliks.

1. It means you will only drain your RF when the target is healed by Sigmar's Shield.

2. Chosen deals slightly better damage than a KOTBS. 2H BG and 2H IB aren't that far apart (DoT-damage vs burst). You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

[rmpl]

So destro now have more crit than Order. Something Order's crit rate was heavily nerfed for. Destro also get to keep their free morale pumps. What are Order getting?

Order got more nerf, classic.. To much whining from destro i guess

You guys should have more faith in the devs, look at the changes they have made so far from live and tell me that the game isn't in a better state now than it was on live.

There's no secret agenda here, the devs aren't favouring one side or the other, they simply want to make the game a more enjoyable experience for everyone.

[GodlessCrom]

2h chosen sucked anyways, and no one ever picked Relentless. Its a good change.

[Krima]

Krima lets go duel your WE 70+ vs my SW 40-45 (merc set geared). I wanna abuse this bug with wirling pin )))))). You have 0 chances now

lets go.. hit me up in game

[rmpl]

Krima lets go duel your WE 70+ vs my SW 40-45 (merc set geared). I wanna abuse this bug with wirling pin )))))). You have 0 chances now

lets go.. hit me up in game

Someone please stream/record that.

[peterthepan3]

Krima will literally oneshot the dude before the first arrow has landed.