Scenario Leeching

[Scrilian]

>Pugs will still be paired against premades in t4
How is that an issue? There is none tbh aside of the usual overreacting hysteria coming from the side of soloQ-only players about their poor feelings being hurt.

[peterthepan3]

i'll just reiterate what's been said 1000s of times by many different players: these suggestions all stem from players' reluctance to form groups and play the game as a cohesive unit. I don't see people questioning this when it comes to large scale RvR, i.e. the importance of finding a group/warband if you wish to succeed. the same applies for scenarios: if you don't form a group then you can expect to get hurt even more than you would in RvR because you can't rely on numbers to back you up to the same extent.

tldr: get friendly with a few people, form a group, and use voice comms. you'll have fun and it's a good way to improve. honestly can't fathom why this still eludes people. suggesting mechanics or changes that would have a detrimental effect on players who do get into groups and play as a GROUP (because apparently the game wasn't designed to be played as a group according to some people?) can't be taken seriously.

[Telen]

The problem with the idea of separating pugs and pres is that the handful of proper pres that want a balanced fight will be waiting forever. The others that just get in them to play the meta just do it to get an advantage over the crap matchmaking and broken classes. They dont want to be fighting the proper pres either. The danger is of forcing players to play only certain classes certain ways. Totally removing the mmo element. What needs to happen is proper class balance so every tree in every class is effective and some sort of match making. As OrangeMaralade one of the top wow pvp players said arenas arent a game of skill they are a game of strategy same here. Pugs cant have a strategy as they dont know what they will get.

[Scrilian]

Added my previous post on the matter to the signature.

[roadkillrobin]

>Pugs will still be paired against premades in t4
How is that an issue? There is none tbh aside of the usual overreacting hysteria coming from the side of soloQ-only players about their poor feelings being hurt.

It's an issue regarding this topic ...and considering it's probobly the number one complaint from the player base i'd say it's an issue.

[peterthepan3]

It's not an issue when the solution has been ever present and within every single player's grasp since the day warhammer came out.

[adei]

If they same few people could stop derailing every thread into pug vs premade that would be fantastic, sometimes I think its your goal to lock threads you guys disagree with.

[roadkillrobin]

Well this thread is kinda about it since it's related to why people go afk in scenarios.

[Karast]

If they same few people could stop derailing every thread into pug vs premade that would be fantastic, sometimes I think its your goal to lock threads you guys disagree with.

+1!

[peterthepan3]

If they same few people could stop derailing every thread into pug vs premade that would be fantastic, sometimes I think its your goal to lock threads you guys disagree with.

roadkillrobin instigated it when suggesting premades ought to be reduced to 3 players. if that doesn't warrant a response from premades then lul.