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Re: Go for da soft Spot/Relentless Strike

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:47 am
by Razid1987
Bozzax wrote: Click on the target? Call target on TS it is called skill
Thanks for the obvious answer. I guess you missed the part where I said "blob", aka unclickable.

Re: Go for da soft Spot/Relentless Strike

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:04 am
by Bozzax
We did exactly that before /assist was fixed how is it impossible?

Re: Go for da soft Spot/Relentless Strike

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:08 am
by Bozzax
Here is another one for you

Make a macro to auto assist you tank and drag it on to button 9

Key bind 0: Guillotine
Key bind 1: Gut Ripper
Key bind 2: Cutting claw
Key bind 2: Tainted claw
Key bind 3: Thunderous Blow
Key bind 4: Corruption
Key bind 5: Touch of Rot
Key bind 6: Pulverize
Key bind 8: Rend

Create a ”multi key” on your MMO-mouse that presses button 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

Set it to ”toggled” and repeat every 0.025 seconds

Assign another ”toggled” button that change from stance SAV to BRUT every 6 seconds

Set follow on your tank buddy

Watch a movie

You still think NB is the problem here?

NOTE: I didn't bother to make a "perfect rotation" or anything for a mara but I'm sure you get it.

Re: Go for da soft Spot/Relentless Strike

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:11 am
by Razid1987
Bozzax wrote:We did exactly that before /assist was fixed how is it impossible?
What I mean is that it's difficult, and that is obviously not a problem in itself. But when you combine that with the pressure of a large scale combat situation, you're pretty much in a "do or die"-dilemma. It's probably just me though. When was it fixed? Back in T2?
Bozzax wrote:Here is another one for you

Make a macro to auto assist you tank and drag it on to button 9

Key bind 0: Guillotine
Key bind 1: Gut Ripper
Key bind 2: Cutting claw
Key bind 2: Tainted claw
Key bind 3: Thunderous Blow
Key bind 4: Corruption
Key bind 5: Touch of Rot
Key bind 6: Pulverize
Key bind 8: Rend

Create a ”multi key” on your MMO-mouse that presses button 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

Set it to ”toggled” and repeat every 0.025 seconds

Assign another ”toggled” button that change from stance SAV to BRUT every 6 seconds

Set follow on your tank buddy

Watch a movie

You still think NB is the problem here?

NOTE: I didn't bother to make a "perfect rotation" or anything for a mara but I'm sure you get it.
Pointing out more flaws doesn't justify NB. So yes, NB is still a problem. I never said it was the problem.

Re: Go for da soft Spot/Relentless Strike

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:46 am
by DefinitelyNotWingz
Fairness and equality is about the same chance not the same success.

Everybody can have NB, everybody can have a non standard UI, everybody can use /assist, everybody can be part of a premade.

Not everybody can have a gaming mouse.

NB is fair because everybody can use it.

Re: Go for da soft Spot/Relentless Strike

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:06 am
by roadkillrobin
I think /assist is a essential part of the game. Removing it would punish pug players using it more then premades coz they can still call out targets on a communication app while pugs don't have that choise. Also tanks and ST dps targeting is a complete mess in wb vs. wb without it. So would just push those players to reroll more of the cookicutter classes that the game allready has to many of due to bad class ballance.

Re: Go for da soft Spot/Relentless Strike

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:40 am
by Bretin
Bozzax wrote:Here is another one for you

Make a macro to auto assist you tank and drag it on to button 9

Key bind 0: Guillotine
Key bind 1: Gut Ripper
Key bind 2: Cutting claw
Key bind 2: Tainted claw
Key bind 3: Thunderous Blow
Key bind 4: Corruption
Key bind 5: Touch of Rot
Key bind 6: Pulverize
Key bind 8: Rend

Create a ”multi key” on your MMO-mouse that presses button 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

Set it to ”toggled” and repeat every 0.025 seconds

Assign another ”toggled” button that change from stance SAV to BRUT every 6 seconds

Set follow on your tank buddy

Watch a movie

You still think NB is the problem here?
what a paragon of my theory about NB and skill rotations in general.
thanks for that already.

Bozzax failed for 100% on his marauder skill chain and that's the reason why this addon is completely overrated.
For a decent player there is no difference whether if he should press 1-2-3 or 3-3-3. NB is a facilitation, nothing more. If you are able to set it up properly, you would press the right keys w/o it.
If you fail at setting it up, you would fail playing without it. easy as that.

thanks for your example.

Re: Go for da soft Spot/Relentless Strike

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:53 am
by Bozzax
You failed to read and understand ;)

Re: Go for da soft Spot/Relentless Strike

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:20 am
by Reesh
I hearthly agree with all Razids well thought posts. Same with Vigfuss.

It's an MMO, you need to have couple of bars with everything that you'd need to use and pick those abilities/items by yourself. That's a skill factor, to quickly decide what's the most optimal ability to click in next GCD, thinking in split seconds by Just Yourself.

At the same time, reading posts from players defending NB is like watching a good movie, so entertaining. I know you got used to just one action bar, it's tidy and all that good stuff, but that addon is unfair and I don't know why you don't see it yet.
Lots of arguments with MMO mouse. Not every player has one and from what I do remember they cost more from regular good ones, but everyone with 2 clicks has an access to NB.

Re: Go for da soft Spot/Relentless Strike

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:35 am
by DefinitelyNotWingz
Reesh wrote: but that addon is unfair .
Explain and link a definition of fairness that supports your opinion.