Return of Reckoning

Regarding pounce: do you envision a root which bypasses immunity?

Azarael wrote:Regarding pounce: do you envision a root which bypasses immunity?

I honestly had not thought that far ahead.

Ideally I would say yes - but that is probably more of a lazy statement. The reality is that respecting root immunities and a WL "learning to play" accordingly is probably the correct answer. (i.e. you don't waste a kd on an unstoppable target... don't waste your pounce on a root immunity target).

with that said - i don't think pounce should give a root immunity though unless its duration is actually 1+seconds.

Azarael wrote:Regarding pounce: do you envision a root which bypasses immunity?

I personally think it works amazing in WoW with the Warrior's Charge. It was a 1,5 sec stun, which had it's own DR. It was "relatively recently" changed to a 1,5 sec root, however. I'm unaware if it bypasses immunities. I want to say, that I don't think it does. Not sure though.

But I think Mursie brings up a good point with it not bypassing it, thereby punish people who Pounce at incorrect times.

Azarael wrote:Regarding pounce: do you envision a root which bypasses immunity?

That depends on the time of the actual root and pounces new cooldown. If it's gonna be something like 0.5s root 10s cooldown then it should definitely bypass immunity though there's no way to be sure if it's the right thing though unless we test it.

Razid1987 wrote: But I think Mursie brings up a good point with it not bypassing it, thereby punish people who Pounce at incorrect times.

rmpl wrote:

Razid1987 wrote: But I think Mursie brings up a good point with it not bypassing it, thereby punish people who Pounce at incorrect times.

God, I hope we can block that in future. I really do.

Azarael wrote: God, I hope we can block that in future. I really do.

lol - I wouldn't be so quick to remove. It is actually far more entertaining to watch a WL repeatedly hit said pounce ability and basically do nothing for five seconds...wondering why his ability isn't working because a preset condition isn't applicable.

No harm done Mursie! If anything I like the fact that an actual conversation has come forth from this "Just nerf x and buff y" post. Even got Azarael interested now! So perhaps its not such a bad post after all! XD

mursie wrote:

Azarael wrote: God, I hope we can block that in future. I really do.

lol - I wouldn't be so quick to remove. It is actually far more entertaining to watch a WL repeatedly hit said pounce ability and basically do nothing for five seconds...wondering why his ability isn't working because a preset condition isn't applicable.

You can use Aura on top of that. Fool proof

Scrilian wrote:

rmpl wrote:

Scrilian wrote:They might have harder time catching up, but when they do:

and with couple of autos here and there you are pretty much dead
Oversimplifying a bit, but you get the point. Savagery would take few more hits, but much harder to heal through.

What is that Guillotine doing there

Haven't you heard? With new Dev. set -armour proc Brut is the new Sav

any one who specs this without a premade or another mdps with inc hd to back them up will not kill anything

also lol flail insted of impale


anyone who thinks tb or any for of wounds debuff on wl is ok is crazy

and i support mursies suggestion of a root on pounce with cd if it dosnt ignore immunites

but with WL snare, pet snare, pounce root and m1 root thats quite a bit off cc

It is a lot of CC, but there is a tonne of CC in general, half the time I don't feel like Juggernaut or similar skills on both sides help so much even when talented on a lower CD. But that is another issue entirely!