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[KOTBS] "Destroy Confidence" tactic discussion

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Penril
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Re: KOTBS discussion

Post#51 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:01 pm

Nishka wrote:
What? I said that Destroy Confidence works only on shaman? Can you prove it? ;)
And no, there will be no counter arguments because I'm tired of your theorycrafting. Main KOTBS for 6 years, then we'll speak.
You pretty much said it here:
Nishka wrote:
Aquilon wrote: Also, tactic requires sticking to a single gobbo, which applies disenchanted spells back in a split second. :mrgreen:
Dealt damage is laughable and time waste is great.
Exactly. A tank, unless he's a potato, has much more things to do than sticking to 1 gobbo trying to loldown lockdown him by removing 3 enchantments in 5 sec.
But when did destro theorycrafters care? :)
Unlike you, i don't need 6 years to learn a class.

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Re: KOTBS discussion

Post#52 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:01 pm

Nishka wrote: What? I said that Destroy Confidence works only on shaman? Can you prove it? ;)

You basically said it right here since you apparently need to chase down a shaman to remove the enchantments he casts ?
Nishka wrote: Exactly. A tank, unless he's a potato, has much more things to do than sticking to 1 gobbo trying to loldown lockdown him by removing 3 enchantments in 5 sec.
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Penril
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Re: KOTBS discussion

Post#53 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:09 pm

Nishka wrote: And no, there will be no counter arguments because I'm tired of your theorycrafting. Main KOTBS for 6 years, then we'll speak.
There will be no counter argument because you don't have one, which is why you are reduced to things like "im tired of your theorycrafting", "oh look expert kotbs". I bet your next post will include a "l2p".

Finally, don't blame me for knowing more about a class i played for 1 year on live and 1 year in RoR, than you do after 6 years.

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Re: KOTBS discussion

Post#54 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:11 pm

Eeeeh? That was just an example why this tactic isn't as op as some destros think. Could be any class, but because how much destro cries about this tactic destroying shamans, Aquilon took gobbo as an example.
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Toldavf
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Re: KOTBS discussion

Post#55 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:11 pm

As a piece of theory craft a knight and one sm can stop 4 shams doing anything other then burst healing 30 seconds out of every minute :P
Khorlar, Thorvold, Sjohgar, Anareth, Toldavf, Hartwin, Gotrin and others -_-

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Re: KOTBS discussion

Post#56 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:13 pm

Nishka wrote:Eeeeh? That was just an example why this tactic isn't as op as some destros think. Could be any class, but because how much destro cries about this tactic destroying shamans, Aquilon took gobbo as an example.
This doesnt even make any sense

"Guys i was wrong because i was giving an example and you cry too much"

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Re: KOTBS discussion

Post#57 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:18 pm

I'm really tired of destro whine. Ok, this tactic is op and when it becomes avaible I will slot it and wreck your ****. I mean, wreck even more than I usually do. Hope you're happy now :P
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Toldavf
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Re: KOTBS discussion

Post#58 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:20 pm

It's not about how well you play knight its about how well you play sham and how badly this tactic shuts you down when you run into it.
Khorlar, Thorvold, Sjohgar, Anareth, Toldavf, Hartwin, Gotrin and others -_-

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Penril
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Re: KOTBS discussion

Post#59 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:26 pm

Nishka wrote:Eeeeh? That was just an example why this tactic isn't as op as some destros think. Could be any class, but because how much destro cries about this tactic destroying shamans, Aquilon took gobbo as an example.
He made that example because he, like you, doesn't fully know KotBS or how some of his tactics/skills work. When destro says the tactic "destroys" Shamans it is not because the KotBS uses DC directly on the Shaman. It is because it damages anyone the Shaman is trying to heal with HoTs.

Imho, DC doesn't "destroy" Shamans but it certainly makes it way harder for them to keep an ally alive (and Shamans, like AM's, already have a high skill cap). My suggestion for a change: the tactic lets you remove an enchantment at 65ft (like it was before) BUT it only removes one enchantment and not 3.

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Re: KOTBS discussion

Post#60 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:28 pm

Penril wrote:
Nishka wrote:Pro KOTBSes in the thread! All get in the car! :3
Is that your counter argument?

Learn your class and skills before posting about them in the forum. You lost all credibility by saying that Destroy Confidence works only on the Shaman.
I hate to say but I see Bretin's point from time to time. The amount of delusional ideas and concepts I read here on a daily basis is just astounding. Anyone who thinks kotbs is in an acceptable state just lacks perspective. It's not as bad as people like tesq make it but its unbalanced for sure
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