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Ungrin
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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Post#491 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:56 pm

Coryphaus wrote:the real problem with sl is that x2 slayers = 100% uptime

im sure that address that
That's why I said we can increase CD to 30s for SL. That's a 5s Gap between slayers rotating. You can even do 35 to put a 10s Gap although I feel that might be a bit much. Would you be able to only reduce CD's by 3s for 9s with the Chop Fasta with a 35s CD?
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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Post#492 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:59 pm

you know yo could always give it the tired already? treatment, single target + exhaust


i dont understand why its not an exhaust firstly and secondly why it needs to hit 9 targets
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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Post#493 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:01 pm

Ungrin wrote:
Coryphaus wrote:the real problem with sl is that x2 slayers = 100% uptime

im sure that address that
That's why I said we can increase CD to 30s for SL. That's a 5s Gap between slayers rotating. You can even do 35 to put a 10s Gap although I feel that might be a bit much. Would you be able to only reduce CD's by 3s for 9s with the Chop Fasta with a 35s CD?

Instead of increased CD, why not simply (probably not simple to do lol) add a DR, so it can't be stacked.


Keep the 20 second cooldown, ad a 30 second DR. It would punish bad Slayers who simply spam it without watching the DR, but still allow them to apply it to new targets who aren't DR'd.
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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Post#494 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:04 pm

Azuzu wrote:
Ungrin wrote:
Coryphaus wrote:the real problem with sl is that x2 slayers = 100% uptime

im sure that address that
That's why I said we can increase CD to 30s for SL. That's a 5s Gap between slayers rotating. You can even do 35 to put a 10s Gap although I feel that might be a bit much. Would you be able to only reduce CD's by 3s for 9s with the Chop Fasta with a 35s CD?

Instead of increased CD, why not simply add a DR, so it can't be stacked.
Yeah, that's fine with me too. That way you can also have DR on chop fasta. Good idea.

I also think the inc heal debuff from the Choppa's middle tree is useless when they have keep on choppin in the left tree, which is perfectly mirrored with Slayers. You can remove slayer's Rampage, and give them the AP ability from the choppas tree. Slayers will have less AP problems as well. I'd change the heal debuff from the choppa's middle tree to an armor debuff or a wounds debuff. The armor debuff is something the choppa used to have but was taken away (because it was used too much.) If you give the choppa the wounds debuff you can also take it away from mara which would bring it more in line with the other mDPS and force players to take a choppa for a wounds debuff.
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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Post#495 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:06 pm

Ungrin wrote:You can remove slayer's Rampage, and give them the AP ability from the choppas tree. Slayers will have less AP problems as well.
I'm not going to lie, I kind of like Rampage. Endgame it's the only thing that counters those annoying Super defensive tanks. I think it should just be mirrors on Choppa.
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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Post#496 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:07 pm

Azuzu wrote:
Ungrin wrote:You can remove slayer's Rampage, and give them the AP ability from the choppas tree. Slayers will have less AP problems as well.
I'm not going to lie, I kind of like Rampage. Endgame it's the only thing that counters those annoying Super defensive tanks. I think it should just be mirrors on Choppa.
People complain about it too much. You get the -50% parry/block exhaustive attack. Might as well just make that undefendable and make it a flat 50% nerf to tanks to their block/parry so that it's less OP.
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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Post#497 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:09 pm

Have the CD increase apply to the first skill the target uses while under the effect of the debuff. Adjust Shatter Limbs CD and duration to balance as needed.
This way you reward good play from the debuffed targets, and force Slayers to use the skill against targets that are activating or going to activate a key skill (DoK/WP group-heal, etc.).

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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Post#498 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:09 pm

I think you should stop trying to mirror classes.
It makes for ultra boring gameplay.
And rampage is not really strong btw.

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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Post#499 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:11 pm

tomato wrote:I think you should stop trying to mirror classes.
It makes for ultra boring gameplay.
And rampage is not really strong btw.

You had me with ultra boring gameplay. I love DAoC and I love the idea of diversity between factions.


You lost me at, "rampage is not really strong".
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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion

Post#500 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:13 pm

tomato wrote: And rampage is not really strong btw.
lol?

first off it compleatly counter late game block and parry which lets the be better tank killers BUT heres the biggest **** benifit of the ability, it lets you drop rage while you are disabled
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