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Re: [Split] Marauder discussion
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:15 pm
by Penril
Uchoo wrote:Penril wrote:Coryphaus wrote:but which of the prayers would you replace
Righteousness, of course.
Celerity is Righteousness, it just does a little less damage and has a snare component.
Which is the reason why i said Righteousness, duh... Give the snare proc to it and reduce the damage value.
Re: [Split] Marauder discussion
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:18 pm
by magter3001
This thread screams out "MIRROR ALL ZE CLASSES!"

Re: [Split] Marauder discussion
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:50 pm
by Uchoo
I was just implying that you don't have to "replace" a prayer.
Re: [Split] Marauder discussion
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:54 am
by Luth
And why eveyone seems to think that everything always needs to be buffed?
How about removing the snare component from the DOK covenant and raise the the damage?
Buffing every attack from any groupmember with a chance on a snare proc was a very bad design decision by mythic...
Re: [Split] Marauder discussion
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:39 am
by Greatwarden
magter3001 wrote:This thread screams out "MIRROR ALL ZE CLASSES!"

Only because we're talking about a member of the Mara/SW/WL/SH train-wreck, which was basically Mythic DELIBERATELY breaking the mirror and randomly sweeping the shards into four jagged piles.
The pile that made up the Mara just happened to not only work but work really, really well. (The less said about the piles that just got a random mishmash of stuff the better.)
Arguably, the very concept of 'mirrored classes' should only strictly apply to BW/Sorc, WE/WH, Eng/Magus, Slayer/Chop, WP/Dok and RP/Zeal and should never apply to Mara/SW/WL/SH.
Re: [Split] Marauder discussion
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:09 am
by mikke
The author got to play several sc and check combat log on his mara. DPS of mara is laughable. Have look on WL with 900 autoatack hit and any rdd. Mara dies a way faster than he might to apply all his debuffs.
Re: [Split] Marauder discussion
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:35 am
by satori
mikke wrote:The author got to play several sc and check combat log on his mara. DPS of mara is laughable. Have look on WL with 900 autoatack hit and any rdd. Mara dies a way faster than he might to apply all his debuffs.
if this is your impression of the class (mara) you really need to step up your game... sorry to say that but statements like these about one of the best (if not the best) melee dps are just crazy
Re: [Split] Marauder discussion
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:50 am
by Tesq
Luth wrote:And why eveyone seems to think that everything always needs to be buffed?
How about removing the snare component from the DOK covenant and raise the the damage?
Buffing every attack from any groupmember with a chance on a snare proc was a very bad design decision by mythic...
+1
i would remove the bad things not mirror each of of them
Re: [Split] Marauder discussion
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:56 am
by Bretin
DoK snare is fine since order has a lot more aoe snares which dont require any rng
Re: [Split] Marauder discussion
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:24 pm
by Coryphaus
Before all that I think we need to address the fundemental flaws of DoK and wp
Something needs to be done to turn these back into the frontline melee healers they were intended to be not this medium armored back line ez mode healers who stack tough and mitigate so much dmg it's obnoxious