Feinted Positioning

[Atropik]

I repeat, FP never NEVER helped in snearing. And it was not important, but it is very importante now, cause of:
- Melee bug,
- SWs/Shs selfpunt changes,
- Not implemented Resolute Defence.
These problems should be solved, or FP should affect snare.

[redmage]

I found these old posts from 2009-
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?456 ... ine/page70

[Mavella]

I found these old posts from 2009-
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?456 ... ine/page70

No man it was DEFINITELY changed to not work despite there being no patch notes to reflect that change because that's how I remember it and that is all that matters. I need 4K definition video proof to validate otherwise.


While we're at it we better make it so the Torment armor ignore doesn't work from the front or sides because Feinted Positioning doesn't explicitly state that functionality. It's only TRUE purpose is to make it so two speced abilities with an actual positional "Requirement" are usable from any angle.

[Chaoself]

when aoe snare + selfpunt will be fixed? if you had antisnare/antiroot it would not trigger. mostly of players still abusing of those bugs (it triggers also with mara/wl root m1)

[Mez]

I found these old posts from 2009-
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?456 ... ine/page70

No man it was DEFINITELY changed to not work despite there being no patch notes to reflect that change because that's how I remember it and that is all that matters. I need 4K definition video proof to validate otherwise.


While we're at it we better make it so the Torment armor ignore doesn't work from the front or sides because Feinted Positioning doesn't explicitly state that functionality. It's only TRUE purpose is to make it so two speced abilities with an actual positional "Requirement" are usable from any angle.

Yep, I remember the day it stopped working. I was an rr60 witch elf on live to start. I believe it was hotfixed. I.e. it just stopped working one day.

[Luth]

... because that's how I remember it and that is all that matters.

Sounds reasonable.

P.S.: I remember that FP used to work with the snare too, but i played my WH high likely before that hotfix/patch/whatever.

[Elratie]

so when did this "Hotfix" came out before or after rr100? i played the witch for years till the rr 100 patch and with FP up you could always snare the target like it should.

Aza has a point when he say he dont want change thing´s on Hearsay and is understandable but Mavella did give you the entire patchlogs, i would say the so called "Hotfix" was a bug and Mythic didn´t cared at the end with it but everyone thought of it that this is in­ten­ti­o­nal.

Common Sense: You can't position yourself behind your target or even at their side through feinting if you're 65ft away. It just isn't going to happen.

Kind of weird logic you have: If i shoot you with a real Gun or a Dagger and hit you from Behind the Pain would slow you down (snare) and the Angle wouldn´t matter when i hit you.

With your logic you would have to change Agonizing Wound (the WH too), so the positionial requirements would only affect that you can use it infront/side but it dosen´t ignore Armor. Same goes for the Stun you can use it infront/side but ohh it dosen´t stun. (FP would be useless)

so the Question for the Dev´s is, what are you gonna do, the skills like it was with rr 80 or at the end of the game with rr 100? do the Content from rr 80 but the Skills from rr 100? (weird logic). in the Forum it was Mentioned (from the Dev´s) that it will be rr 80!

what about the jump bug where you lag forward? it got mentioned that this is bugabusing you would have to Ban the entire Server. (everyone does it) So you changed one of the things to counter that to some degree.

sorry for wall of text and bad english

[redmage]

It originally used to work with FP, but was later changed on live.

This is all that matters.

With respect to all, if you cannot prove this wrong, please don't bother me with this unless it's in a thread asking for an official balance change, in which case it will be considered if required in T4.

Common Sense: You can't position yourself behind your target or even at their side through feinting if you're 65ft away. It just isn't going to happen.

I think it would be perfectly reasonable to feint with a pistol from 65ft. If someone draws a gun on you and pretends to shoot, you would probably cover your vitals- then they could just shoot you in the kneecap, slowing you down at least that's how I always saw it.

Back to the topic at hand, there is also http://immune-systems.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11957 found it on a thread from June, but it seems like it lost out to people's memories. Sorry you're being bogged down with this stuff, but I do feel like most folk just want to make sure everything works as intended.

[Sulorie]

Either 100% of all WE preferred to be kited to death instead of using FP to snare a kiter or it never worked for the time of one year after release until shutdown.

[Mez]

https://youtu.be/buzUA72a-qk?t=48s

This was from live. At 0:48 seconds if you pause the buffs, you'll see the WH popped feinted positioning. You'll also see me not-get-snared twice before the buff expires.

I love this video so much. I was getting trolled for being a sorc in TM region chat saying I couldn't kill without a zerg, and I'm like training these kids solo. Aaah, I miss WAR so much.