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Re: White Lions Pounce
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:12 am
by grumcajs
Sulorie wrote:Aceboltz wrote:How many shamans have run away and wazat behind me slotted? I bet almost no one. If you slot both said tactics you can't take discipline or gork fixed it.
I agree on shamans having too many viable tactics later on but that's no bad thing. Just different tactic setups are possible, what you can't say about some other classes.
Where you lost me is gork fixed it. This skill has the worst heal/ap ratio and not even the tacic can improve it noticeable. Increasing something low with a percent value is inefficient. Not even the quite short cast time makes it viable.
its not so horrible in duo / roam with small grp. when u were using 2 hots + gork fixed it as fast cast addition when u kept kiting around.
in keep sieges / large scale its indeed terrible choice
atleast I was using it only for roaming with 1-2 friends
Re: White Lions Pounce
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:13 am
by wiscel
Just wait till Swordmaster get their moral Wings Of Heaven, then he can jump with the WL and guard him same time.
Re: White Lions Pounce
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:24 pm
by Onlyblood
ye lets jump every 0,1s hhahaha skill guys skill !! lol
Re: White Lions Pounce
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:01 pm
by Liandel
Jokerloz wrote:Last night with the WL pouncing on the top floor of keep is ridiculous. I mean come'on that's just not right. was 6 of them last night doing it . How is that even fair you may ask?!
WAR.....WAR never changes.
~Liandel
Re: White Lions Pounce
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:26 pm
by foof
Any Pounce based argument that actually complains about the ability being "too good at this" too "blah at blah", whatever, is completely misguided and missing the point.
The problem as it relates to Pounce is not that there is anything inherently wrong with the ability. The issue has always been "Destro have absolutely nothing comparable".
Now, you can make that argument for other abilities in this game as well. But none of them are as glaringly obvious as Pounce. This isn't an ease of use issue, common spec access issue, mirror issue, etc.. its a plain old, "one faction can do something the other faction just can't do, no matter what".
Now, that's fine overall, but the point being is that any "nerf or mirror Pounce argmuents" should be based on a comparison of the factions and the reality that the reason you would want Pounce changed or mirrored would be for parity issues. Not based on the abilities function in a vacuum.
Re: White Lions Pounce
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:06 pm
by Penril
Liandel wrote:Jokerloz wrote:Last night with the WL pouncing on the top floor of keep is ridiculous. I mean come'on that's just not right. was 6 of them last night doing it . How is that even fair you may ask?!
WAR.....WAR never changes.
~Liandel
+100 for Fallout reference
Re: White Lions Pounce
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:55 pm
by Jezz08
Joker just don't even go there, stop QQing about every lil thing, play your choppa more so you can QQ about how OP engis/magus are and then come back on the forums and say " dude I saw 6 engis snipe me at the same time I got 1shoted"
P.S I remember the good old times on live were you just died and raged out coz " we was hacking "

Re: White Lions Pounce
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:17 am
by magter3001
I got festerbombed 6-7 times in one scenario. People would be shot or AoEd through floors for months, WE/WHs would remain invisible for 10 seconds after unstealthing but no one would be able to see them.
Things happen in WAR that you have to deal with... maybe instead of complaining, you can be the one who they have to deal with?
Re: White Lions Pounce
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:55 am
by Toldavf
Wont get changed till pull is added and people get pulled off the walls. I don't really agree with any sort of nerf to the pounce skill but I do believe it should work more in line with how it was in live.
it should still be usable if the enemy char is slightly higher or lower then you but not to its current degree.
Re: White Lions Pounce
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:15 am
by magicthighs
Penril wrote:Soulcheg wrote:
I can mirror your post to dozen unique destro abilities. For start you can tell me about RUN AWAY tactic, and where i can see it's Order mirror. Begin, please.
Except order already uses RUN AWAY and gobbos in general to justify:
- Stop, Drop and Roll
- Eye Shot
- Destroy confidence
Damn gobbos are OP yo...
Funny, SD&R and Destroy Confidence aren't even available yet.